Worst Start in Coyotes History? (UPD: It was)

[SniperHF]

So I went back and looked through the past seasons, nothing too specific like first 10 games or whatever just eyeballing patterns


So far this season we are 0-3-1 (and let's face it that 1 was a tough one )


Other bad starts:
16/17: 1 - 5
07/08: 2 - 5
06/07: 1-5 (or 2-8 if you expand it a bit)
05/06: 1-4-1
02/03: 1-4


So the way I see it, if we don't win the next game it's officially the worst start in our history. I suppose you could argue it already is given in those other bad starts the win was mixed in.

Will we pull out of the nose dive?

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[TheLegend]

You just wanted to test the poll function didn't you?

 

[Neighborhood Coyote]

Looking back at last year vs this one... I am a lot more comfortable with the play of the team this year. 3 of the 4 games could easily have been wins for this team. Last year was a freaking nightmare road trip that ended the season just as it began because the team not only lost, but looked horrible while doing so. My opinion at least.

 

[RABBIT]

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[Lawson of Anarchy]

I think the team was not emotionally prepared for Corey Perry and then the Vegas opener. I feel the record does not reflect the capability of them team and hope for better.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I'm thinking it's a beautiful thing - start weak - finish strong!

 

[Jakey53]

I'm thinking it's a beautiful thing - start weak - finish strong!

I thought we would start somewhat strong and finish weak.

 

[SniperHF]

Looking back at last year vs this one... I am a lot more comfortable with the play of the team this year. 3 of the 4 games could easily have been wins for this team. Last year was a freaking nightmare road trip that ended the season just as it began because the team not only lost, but looked horrible while doing so. My opinion at least.

That's a good argument. And there are some parallels too in that the #1 goalie has gone down both times. Certainly debatable either way.

But it won't be for long if they don't get in the win column here pretty quickly .

 

[Coyotedroppings]

I thought we would start somewhat strong and finish weak.

In all honesty, I did too. Now I see it as start weak, improve / start looking strong, only to find another lesson to be learned about NHL hockey after the break.

 

[Heldig]

I see the team starting slow (duh in hindsight) as they learn and adapt to Tocchets system. I think Chayka grabs some help off the waiver wire or trades for a veteran fairly soon. Then the young guys will pour it on for half a season (including a Strome call up), teasing at a playoff spot but fade down the stretch a bit.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

From the record stand point it will be as I fully expect to get beat by Boston tomorrow...but this has been a much better team that the record it has. I do think they need to spread the offense out a bit and need to break up Domi/Stepan/Keller line...we need at least 2 lines that can score.

 

[Fyreman]

How 'bout the team playing a FULL 60 minutes instead of 57?? Vegas game excluded...

 

[Matias Maccete]

Numbers wise it might be, but even then I think we need to define how many games the start is. 5 games? Maybe. Extend it to 10 or higher and its doubtful.

 

[SniperHF]

Numbers wise it might be, but even then I think we need to define how many games the start is. 5 games? Maybe. Extend it to 10 or higher and its doubtful.

I went by gut feeling. I actually think that's just as valid as having it more clearly defined. It's like those stats they like to read off on broadcasts that are all month based. But if you split it up it tells a different story. Can always cut it somewhere.

In the cases of the ones I had in the OP, it was all pattern based. So the "bad" starts had 1 win only and strings of losses together. After that was when it stabilized and you say more 2W then 2L then 3 than 2 etc.

So the short version is, I'd say the "start" ends when the pattern changes.

 

[Matias Maccete]

I went by gut feeling. I actually think that's just as valid as having it more clearly defined. It's like those stats they like to read off on broadcasts that are all month based. But if you split it up it tells a different story. Can always cut it somewhere.

In the cases of the ones I had in the OP, it was all pattern based. So the "bad" starts had 1 win only and strings of losses together. After that was when it stabilized and you say more 2W then 2L then 3 than 2 etc.

So the short version is, I'd say the "start" ends when the pattern changes.

Gut feeling is tough for me, I'm not sure I can remember my gut feelings for a lot the season starts. I kind of anticipated this season not starting well, so that affects how I feel about it too.

The turnaround might take some time. I'm not sure I see us beating Boston, but I think we take at least one game out of the back to backs against Dallas. I think Chicago is a loss, but I think we can beat the islanders, and by then the rangers flyers and devils won't be too much for us to handle.

0 4 1 after tomorrow, then either 1 5 1 or 2 4 1, a loss to Chicago, then I think we'll level out.

 

[rt]

I thought we would start somewhat strong and finish weak.

I was sure we'd start weak and finish strong

 

[RemoAZ]

From the record stand point it will be as I fully expect to get beat by Boston tomorrow...but this has been a much better team that the record it has. I do think they need to spread the offense out a bit and need to break up Domi/Stepan/Keller line...we need at least 2 lines that can score.

Which is another reason we should have kept Strome up and put him with two scorers. Still pisses me off.

 

[RemoAZ]

I was sure we'd start weak and finish strong

Me too. I figured it would take a while to get situated. Still don't like how unorganized they came out though.

 

[SniperHF]

I figured we'd muddle around early because of the easy schedule, even with the system/coaching turnover. After all even the historically bad Avs won 22 games somehow. Hockey's institutional parity is quite powerful.

 

[PhoPhan]

These are the main negatives I've seen in the games so far:

• Complete lack of defensive structure
• Inability to play a full 60 minutes
• Little to no progress from game to game

On that last point, Game 4 was the first time they didn't look worse than they did the game before. Ultimately, that's what I'd like to see, whether they make the playoffs or not: progress. If they can look decent as a team for even most of the game against Boston, I'll feel a little optimistic.

 

[Heldig]

Certainly didn't expect to lose both games to Vegas.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

There will never be progress without defensive structure.

 

[GiveAFlyingPuck]

Nine more games left this month and I think we'd be playing over our heads to win 4 of them. You're basically out of playoff contention after one month. It'll be a hard sell to get people to come watch this team.

 

[SniperHF]

So this happened.

Not only are we 0-5-1, we're also last in goal differential.

 

[Matias Maccete]

So this happened.

Not only are we 0-5-1, we're also last in goal differential.

Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, not good.