Nobody is saying these players are horrible. The guy who started this thread mentioned in post #1 that it doesn`t necessarily mean that these players are necessarily bad, it just asked who would rank at the bottom of that list. Instead people act like if a player has 1000 points nothing critical should ever be said about them. Using that logic, it`s wrong for anyone to bring up Bryan Fogarty in the most disappointing player thread because at least he made the NHL while thousands and thousands of others didn`t. People are getting way too sensitive about thread topics lately ( though I admit the who`s more overrated between Robinson and Bossy thread was kind of dumb.)
Ciccarelli is a HOFer in my book....you can talk about numbers not meaning what they used to, but 600 goals is 600 goals.
Let me put it this way: let`s say 25 years ago you put $10,000 in bills in a hiding place in your home. Today you took it out of the hiding place. It`s still $10,000, the dollar values on the bills didn`t change; but is it worth the same? Obviously not, because you could have bought much more with that money back then than today.
Same philosophy here. Ciccarelli`s 600 goals are still 600 goals, but worth much less than say, Bobby Hulls 600 goals.
Since he was one of my favorite players.. and I use his name here, I kind of feel obligated to ask, why would you single him out(I know other posters have too)?
For the record, I`ve always had a lot of respect for Pat Verbeek. The thing is back in the 60s, 70s and 80s, getting 500 goals was a
major accomplishment. It only happened once every few years and was always considered a big deal by the media. The idea of a 500 goal scorer not making the Hall of Fame was unthinkable. Richard, Howe, Beliveau, Hull. This wasn`t the very good, it wasn`t the great: it was the greatest.
In the 90s however, a lot of players hit it who didn`t fit that bill. Lemieux, Messier and Yzerman are one thing. Andreychuk and Goulet are a different story. When the club becomes less exclusive, it loses some of what made it special.
As BBB said, Pat Verbeek can play on my team anyday. It`s just that calling him a 500 goal scorer, while technically accurate, doesn`t mean what it used to.