World Cup vs World Championships rosters

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Rabid Ranger

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I thought it would be interesting to compare your country's World Championship roster (this year) with the projected World Cup roster. I'll do the U.S.

World Championships

Coach: Peter Laviolette

Forwards:

Halpern-Drury-Malone
Park-Cullen-Battaglia
Westrum-Hall-Grier
Sloan-Brown-Hamilton

Also: Hilbert

Defense:

Mara-Miller
Gill-Jillson
Weinrich-Roach
Hauer

Also: Ballard

Goaltenders:

Conklin
Dunham
Westlund

Some comments: Obviously not the most well known squad in the world, but actually very speedy and with some surprising skill. A nice mix on "D", and some great goaltending. This squad personifies the team concept and has overachieved thanks to some good coaching.


World Cup:

Coach: Ron Wilson

Projected roster:

Forwards:

LeClair-Modano-Hull
Tkachuk-Roenick-Amonte
Drury-Weight-Guerin
Rolston-Gomez-York

Other possibilities: Langenbrunner, Cole, Conroy, Deadmarsh, Smolinski, Parrish, Blake, Young, Konowalchuk, Halpern, Grier, Legwand

Defense:

Leetch-Carney
Hatcher-Rafalski
Leopold-Schenider
Miller-Mara

Other possibilities: Chelios, Poti, Weinrich, Hedican, Hill, Klee, Gill

Goaltenders:

Esche
Dunham
DiPietro

Other possibilities: Conklin, Boucher, Johnson, Grahame, Miller, Snow

Some Comments: This is what I think the roster will be, not what it should be, at least at forward. There's a chance that some of the older vets at forward could be replaced, and I wouldn't be shocked if that happened. Still, a nice team, and with the proper coaching.motivation could win the tournament.
 

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I'm not doing any lines because they have been changing all the time basically, and will look even more different now as Lidström and Forsberg are joining the team.

World Championships

Coach: Hardy Nilsson

Forwards:
Peter Forsberg
Daniel Alfredsson
Michael Nylander
Per-Johan Axelsson
Andreas Johansson
Samuel PÃ¥hlsson
Fredrik Sjöström
Mathias Tjärnqvist
Jörgen Jönsson
Andreas Salomonsson
Magnus Kahnberg
Jonas Höglund
Johan Davidsson
Niklas Andersson
Jonathan Hedström

Defense:
Nicklas Lidström
Dick Tärnström
Niclas Hävelid
Daniel Tjärnqvist
Christian Bäckman
Ronnie Sundin
Per HÃ¥llberg

Also: Ballard

Goaltenders:

Henrik Lundqvist
Stefan Liv
Daniel Henriksson

Some comments:
A strong WC-team. Plenty of hardworking players and with some offensive studs such as Alfredsson, Forsberg and Nylander. Defense is really strong with 5 very capable NHL-defensemen. Lundqvist is a rock in net.


World Cup:

Coach: Hardy Nilsson

Projected roster:

Forwards:
Peter Forsberg
Mats Sundin
Markus Näslund
Daniel Alfredsson
Henrik Zetterberg
Michael Nylander
Daniel Sedin
Henrik Sedin
Fredrik Modin
Nils Ekman
Per-Johan Axelsson
Tomas Holmström
Jörgen Jönsson

Other possibilities: Kristian Huselius, Samuel Påhlsson, Marcus Nilson, Mattias Weinhandl, Fredrik Sjöström

Defense:
Nicklas Lidström
Mattias Öhlund
Mattias Norström
Kim Johnsson
Dick Tärnström
Niclas Hävelid


Other possibilities: Marcus Ragnarsson, Kenny Jönsson, Daniel Tjärnqvist, Christian Bäckman

Goaltenders:

Mikael Tellqvist
Tommy Salo
Henrik Lundqvist

Other possibilities: Johan Hedberg, Stefan Liv

Some Comments:
Nothing to complain about the forwards and defensemen. Goalies are somewhat questionable compared to for example Canada, USA. Overall a strong team that I think will have a good shot in the tournament, unless they face Belarus. :)
 
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Riddarn

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Defense:
Nicklas Lidström
Mattias Öhlund
Mattias Norström
Kim Johnsson
Dick Tärnström
Niclas Hävelid


Other possibilities: Marcus Ragnarsson, Kenny Jönsson, Daniel Tjärnqvist, Christian Bäckman

I like our depth at defense. I think that it is our biggest strength.
 

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Predatore said:
Sweden.
I'm not doing any lines because they have been changing all the time basically, and will look even more different now as Lidström and Forsberg are joining the team.

World Championships

Coach: Hardy Nilsson

Forwards:
Peter Forsberg
Daniel Alfredsson
Michael Nylander
Per-Johan Axelsson
Andreas Johansson
Samuel PÃ¥hlsson
Fredrik Sjöström
Mathias Tjärnqvist
Jörgen Jönsson
Andreas Salomonsson
Magnus Kahnberg
Jonas Höglund
Johan Davidsson
Niklas Andersson
Jonathan Hedström

Defense:
Nicklas Lidström
Dick Tärnström
Niclas Hävelid
Daniel Tjärnqvist
Christian Bäckman
Ronnie Sundin
Per HÃ¥llberg

Also: Ballard

Goaltenders:

Henrik Lundqvist
Stefan Liv
Daniel Henriksson

Some comments:
A strong WC-team. Plenty of hardworking players and with some offensive studs such as Alfredsson, Forsberg and Nylander. Defense is really strong with 5 very capable NHL-defensemen. Lundqvist is a rock in net.


World Cup:

Coach: Hardy Nilsson

Projected roster:

Forwards:
Peter Forsberg
Mats Sundin
Markus Näslund
Henrik Zetterberg
Michael Nylander
Daniel Sedin
Henrik Sedin
Fredrik Modin
Nils Ekman
Per-Johan Axelsson
Tomas Holmström
Jörgen Jönsson

Other possibilities: Kristian Huselius, Samuel Påhlsson, Marcus Nilson, Mattias Weinhandl, Fredrik Sjöström

Defense:
Nicklas Lidström
Mattias Öhlund
Mattias Norström
Kim Johnsson
Dick Tärnström
Niclas Hävelid


Other possibilities: Marcus Ragnarsson, Kenny Jönsson, Daniel Tjärnqvist, Christian Bäckman

Goaltenders:

Mikael Tellqvist
Tommy Salo
Henrik Lundqvist

Other possibilities: Johan Hedberg, Stefan Liv

Some Comments:
Nothing to complain about the forwards and defensemen. Goalies are somewhat questionable compared to for example Canada, USA. Overall a strong team that I think will have a good shot in the tournament, unless they face Belarus. :)

You don't think Alfredsson will be on your World Cup team? o_O
 

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The Finnish team will change almost completely. Only one of the six offensive NHL forwards was now playing, the defense corps had only two NHL defensemen and all of the goalies will (hopefully) be replaced as well. Only the checking lines can remain, but those players are the most expendable ones.
 

AEKaki

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Rabid Ranger said:
I thought it would be interesting to compare your country's World Championship roster (this year) with the projected World Cup roster. I'll do the U.S.

World Championships

Coach: Peter Laviolette

Forwards:

Halpern-Drury-Malone
Park-Cullen-Battaglia
Westrum-Hall-Grier
Sloan-Brown-Hamilton

Also: Hilbert

Defense:

Mara-Miller
Gill-Jillson
Weinrich-Roach
Hauer

Also: Ballard

Goaltenders:

Conklin
Dunham
Westlund

Some comments: Obviously not the most well known squad in the world, but actually very speedy and with some surprising skill. A nice mix on "D", and some great goaltending. This squad personifies the team concept and has overachieved thanks to some good coaching.


World Cup:

Coach: Ron Wilson

Projected roster:

Forwards:

LeClair-Modano-Hull
Tkachuk-Roenick-Amonte
Drury-Weight-Guerin
Rolston-Gomez-York

Other possibilities: Langenbrunner, Cole, Conroy, Deadmarsh, Smolinski, Parrish, Blake, Young, Konowalchuk, Halpern, Grier, Legwand

Defense:

Leetch-Carney
Hatcher-Rafalski
Leopold-Schenider
Miller-Mara

Other possibilities: Chelios, Poti, Weinrich, Hedican, Hill, Klee, Gill

Goaltenders:

Esche
Dunham
DiPietro

Other possibilities: Conklin, Boucher, Johnson, Grahame, Miller, Snow

Some Comments: This is what I think the roster will be, not what it should be, at least at forward. There's a chance that some of the older vets at forward could be replaced, and I wouldn't be shocked if that happened. Still, a nice team, and with the proper coaching.motivation could win the tournament.


Will Malone play for the US in the World Cup?
He must be a possibility after a good WC tournament.
 

Preds666

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You don't think Alfredsson will be on your World Cup team? o_O

lol, no. I hear you'll have to have a respectable haircut to be eligible to play and Alfie has no plans of getting a decent haircut :);)

he's there now :)
 

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World Cup!

Forwards

Lemeiux
Sakic
Iginla
Primeau
Heatly
Nash
Smyth
Madden
St. Louis
Thornton
Lecalvier
Kariya

Other possibilities: Marleau, Bertuzzi, ?

Deffence:

Blake
Pronger
Niedemyer
Jovanoski
Brewer
Reden
Aucoin

Other Possibilities: McCabe, Foote, Morris, ?

Goalies:

Brodeur
Luongo
Theodore

Other possibilitie: Guigier(sp), Belfore ?
 

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Riddarn said:
I like our depth at defense. I think that it is our biggest strength.

Agreed, 10 defensemen I could put in anytime without being worried.

Two other experienced NHL d-men is Anders Eriksson (though I know many doesn't like him) and Mattias Timander could also be added to the depth chart as reliable d-men IMO.

Andreas Lilja and especially Henrik Tallinder need more development.
 

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World Championships

Coach: Mike Babcock

Forwards:
Cooke-Morrison-Murray
Morrow-Briere-Heatley
Horcoff-R. Niedermayer-Smyth
Dumont/Friesen-Bergeron-Williams

Also:

Defense:
Scott Niedermayer
Jay Bouwmeester
Steve Staios
Eric Brewer
Derek Morris
Nick Schultz
Willie Mitchell


Goaltenders:
Roberto Luongo
JS Giguere
Marc Denis



World Cup:

Coach: Fat Quinn

Projected roster:

Forwards:
Mario Lemieux (if healthy a lock)
Joe Sakic (lock)
Jarome Iginla (lock)
Paul Kariya (lock)
Dany Heatley (lock with strong Worlds showing - Canada's best player)
Joe Thornton (lock - you can't overlook him AGAIN)
Todd Bertuzzi (lock pending he is allowed to play)
Martin St. Louis (lock, great playoffs, regular season scoring champ - cant pass him up)
Simon Gagne (played very good in 2002 and his speed would be an asset)
Ryan Smyth (I think we need his style of play again - brings a lot of experience on the international level)
Mike Peca/Keith Primeau (one of these guys, but not both - with the way Primeau has played lately I think he has the edge)
Alex Tanguay (Without injuries, probably would have been top 5 scorer)
Shane Doan (Gretzky has went out and said he will be on the team, has his mind changed? If he doesn't make it then it's betweem Marleau, Lecavalier, Murray depending on what they're looking for)

Iginla Sakic Heatley
Kariya Lemieux St.Louis
Doan Thornton Bertuzzi
Smyth Primeau Tanguay
Gagne - can sub in anywhere almost

Other possibilities: Glen Murray, Vincent Lecavalier, Brad Richards, Brendan Morrison, Rick Nash, Jason Spezza, Daniel Briere, Patrick Marleau

Defense:
Rob Blake (lock)
Chris Pronger (lock)
Ed Jovanovski (lock)
Adam Foote (lock)
Scott Niedermayer (lock)
Wade Redden (I think he's the next best choice)
Jay Bouwmeester (I dont know if he will be the 7th but I think he is the best suited guy here. Gain more experience and his skating is world class which I think would really help us. Named top d-man at last years Worlds, having another solid outhing there this year)

Pronger Blake
Jovanovski Niedermayer
Redden Foote
Bouwmeester

Other possibilities: (2 front runners to rival Redden and Bouwmeester) Brian McCabe, Adrian Aucoin,
Barret Jackman (long shot), Al MacInnis, Eric Brewer, Derek Morris (long shot), Sheldon Souray (long shot - injuries concern)

Goaltenders:

Martin Brodeur (lock)
Roberto Luongo (lock)
Jose Theodore (close between him and Turco but Turco's play in the last 2 seasons during playoffs is a huge concern)

Other possibilities: Ed Belfour, Marty Turco, JS Giguere

Sorry But You Don't Cut It This Time Around
Al MacInnis - I think his playing days are over
Theo Fleury - I know his playing days are over, especially with Canada
Eric Lindros - dissapointed at SLC, can't see him getting better this time around, especially a concussion later
Joe Nieuwendyk - better players than him this time around
Owen Nolan - Nolan or Bertuzzi hmmmmmm
Brendan Shanahan - Shanahan 5 years ago yes, but he just isn't the same
Steve Yzerman - As much as it pains me I think he is done, his leadership was a huge asset to us in 2002
Eric Brewer - Redden, Aucoin, McCabe, Bouwmeester take your pick, even with his Gold in 2002, he just doesn't cut it


**KEEP IN MIND THAT PLAYOFFS AND WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION** therefor a lot of my picks are being supported by that
 
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Heater 15:

Good choices but,

Brewer over Redden: (Salt Lake experience + Brewer is at 2004 Worlds + has Lowe's backing)

Belfour over Theo: (Belfour had better 2004 playoffs, Gretzky more comfortable with 2 experienced + 1 young goalie, not 1 experienced + 2 young)

Team will be named next week, too late for Bertuzzi I fear.

Serious injuries to other power forwards Doan + Nolan open the door for MARLEAU who is having an amazing playoff.

Don't underestimate the value of experience. Nieuwendyk + Yzerman can both still play at a high level, they're proven champions, are valued by Gretzky and will make team if healthy. Shanahan underacheived and will not.

I agree with you that Primeau is in over Peca.

I'm glad you didn't leave out Gagné. He doesn't score as much as seasons past because Hitchcock has made him a more complete two-way player. 2002 experience is invaluable. Ditto Smyth. And both are still playing.
 

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Team Russia World Cup Roster
Coach : Boris Mikhailov (it's going to be a disaster :banghead: )

FORWARDS
Fedorov
Yashin
Zhamnov
Datsyuk
Kovalev
Kovalchuk
Samsonov
Ovechkin
V. Bure
Morozov
Frolov
Kvasha

Questionable : Mogilny, P. Bure, Viktor Kozlov, Slava Kozlov

DEFENSEMEN
Tverdovsky
D. Markov
Gonchar
Kasparaitis
Kalinin
A. Markov
Malakhov
Ulanov

Questionable : Zubov, Zhitnik, Yushkevitch, B. Mironov

GOALIES
Khabibulin
Nabokov
Sokolov
 
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Team Russia World Cup Roster
Coach : Boris Mikhailov (it's going to be a disaster :banghead: )

FORWARDS
Fedorov
Yashin
Zhamnov
Datsyuk
Kovalev
Kovalchuk
Samsonov
Ovechkin
V. Bure
Morozov
Frolov
Kvasha

Questionable : Mogilny, P. Bure, Viktor Kozlov, Slava Kozlov

DEFENSEMEN
Tverdovsky
D. Markov
Gonchar
Kasparaitis
Kalinin
A. Markov
Malakhov
Ulanov

Questionable : Zubov, Zhitnik, Yushkevitch

GOALIES
Khabibulin
Nabokov
Sokolov

Coach: Mikhailov..........what's with Tikhonov ? :huh:
 

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Coach: Mikhailov..........what's with Tikhonov ? :huh:

he's going down, I read it yesterday, and the Federation is going to appoint Boris Mikhailov as the coach for the WC. It's not 100% sure, but from what I've read in today's Russian online press, it's going to be Mikhailov.

What a disaster it's going to be, just remember 1996 ...
 

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There won't be much change for Germany other then adding Marco Sturm(if ready and allowed by San Jose) and Marcel Goc for offense and Christian Ehrhoff,Sascha Goc and Dennis Seidenberg for defense.
 

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I will try to do the Czech roster:

World Championships:

Coach: Slavomir Lener

Goalies:
Vokoun Tomas
Cechmanek Roman
Salficky Dusan (CSKA - Russian Superleague)


Defense:
Spacek Jaroslav
Hejda Jan (CSKA - Russian Superleague)
Hamr Radek (Färjestad BK - SWE)
Slegr Jiri
Hamrlik Roman
Skoula Martin
Novak Jan (Slavia Praha - Czech)
Kaberle Frantisek

Offense :
Hlinka Jaroslav (Kloten Flyers - Swiss league)
Vyborny David
Straka Martin
Kraft Milan
Havlat Martin
Rucinsky Martin
Prospal Vaclav
Jagr Jaromir
Hlavac Jan
Dvorak Radek
Dopita Jiri (Pardubice - Czech)
Sup Michal (Slavia Praha - Czech)
Beranek Josef (Slavia Praha - Czech)
Prucha Petr (Pardubice - Czech)

The world Cup:

Coach: Ivan Hlinka (yes, many say he already recieved the offer to become the head coach, Lener will be the head coach of Sparta Prague. This was not due to unsuccesful chaps. for Czech, he signed the contract a month ago or so)

Goalies:
Vokoun Tomas
Cechmanek Roman
Salficky Dusan

Other notables: Hasek??? never know, Malek might replace Salficky.

Defense:
Kubina Pavel
Hamrlik Roman
Kaberle Tomas
Zidlicky Marek
Spacek Jaroslav
Skoula Martin
Slegr Jiri

Other notables: Modry, Fischer, Rachunek, Malik, Klesla.

Offense:
Jagr Jaromir
Straka Martin
Lang Robert
Hejduk Milan
Bonk Radek
Havlat Martin
Sykora Petr
Cajanek Petr
Elias Patrik
Dvorak Radek
Nedved Patr
Rucinsky Martin
Reichel Robert

Other notables: Hemsky, Holik, Prospal, Vyborny, Erat, Varada.


Wow, I do not envy the coach his job in here. So many names, and almost noone on my roster from Europe, due to the small ring, I think none of europeans skaters will be invited.
 
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Pronger Nidermayer
Foote Blake
Redden McCabe

Broduer
Eddie B
Luongo

those would be my choices
 

Sting

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katodelder said:
Heater 15:

Good choices but,

Brewer over Redden: (Salt Lake experience + Brewer is at 2004 Worlds + has Lowe's backing)

I'll take Redden every single day of the week over Brewer. I believe Gretzky has said Redden is a lock in the past. Redden is consistent every night and that's what you need for the World Cup. Brewer hasn't been very good at the World Championships and doesn't deserve to be at the World Cup over Redden atm.
 

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I agree with sting, Redden plays awesome, hes great offensively and defensively.
I think he should have been a candidate for the Norris.

Also, you cant forget about McCabe and Aucoin they should be 7 and 8 defense.
 
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