World Cup vs World Championships rosters

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  1. Rabid Ranger

    Rabid Ranger 2 is better than one

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    I thought it would be interesting to compare your country's World Championship roster (this year) with the projected World Cup roster. I'll do the U.S.

    World Championships

    Coach: Peter Laviolette

    Forwards:

    Halpern-Drury-Malone
    Park-Cullen-Battaglia
    Westrum-Hall-Grier
    Sloan-Brown-Hamilton

    Also: Hilbert

    Defense:

    Mara-Miller
    Gill-Jillson
    Weinrich-Roach
    Hauer

    Also: Ballard

    Goaltenders:

    Conklin
    Dunham
    Westlund

    Some comments: Obviously not the most well known squad in the world, but actually very speedy and with some surprising skill. A nice mix on "D", and some great goaltending. This squad personifies the team concept and has overachieved thanks to some good coaching.


    World Cup:

    Coach: Ron Wilson

    Projected roster:

    Forwards:

    LeClair-Modano-Hull
    Tkachuk-Roenick-Amonte
    Drury-Weight-Guerin
    Rolston-Gomez-York

    Other possibilities: Langenbrunner, Cole, Conroy, Deadmarsh, Smolinski, Parrish, Blake, Young, Konowalchuk, Halpern, Grier, Legwand

    Defense:

    Leetch-Carney
    Hatcher-Rafalski
    Leopold-Schenider
    Miller-Mara

    Other possibilities: Chelios, Poti, Weinrich, Hedican, Hill, Klee, Gill

    Goaltenders:

    Esche
    Dunham
    DiPietro

    Other possibilities: Conklin, Boucher, Johnson, Grahame, Miller, Snow

    Some Comments: This is what I think the roster will be, not what it should be, at least at forward. There's a chance that some of the older vets at forward could be replaced, and I wouldn't be shocked if that happened. Still, a nice team, and with the proper coaching.motivation could win the tournament.
     
  2. Predatore

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    I'm not doing any lines because they have been changing all the time basically, and will look even more different now as Lidström and Forsberg are joining the team.

    World Championships

    Coach: Hardy Nilsson

    Forwards:
    Peter Forsberg
    Daniel Alfredsson
    Michael Nylander
    Per-Johan Axelsson
    Andreas Johansson
    Samuel PÃ¥hlsson
    Fredrik Sjöström
    Mathias Tjärnqvist
    Jörgen Jönsson
    Andreas Salomonsson
    Magnus Kahnberg
    Jonas Höglund
    Johan Davidsson
    Niklas Andersson
    Jonathan Hedström

    Defense:
    Nicklas Lidström
    Dick Tärnström
    Niclas Hävelid
    Daniel Tjärnqvist
    Christian Bäckman
    Ronnie Sundin
    Per HÃ¥llberg

    Also: Ballard

    Goaltenders:

    Henrik Lundqvist
    Stefan Liv
    Daniel Henriksson

    Some comments:
    A strong WC-team. Plenty of hardworking players and with some offensive studs such as Alfredsson, Forsberg and Nylander. Defense is really strong with 5 very capable NHL-defensemen. Lundqvist is a rock in net.


    World Cup:

    Coach: Hardy Nilsson

    Projected roster:

    Forwards:
    Peter Forsberg
    Mats Sundin
    Markus Näslund
    Daniel Alfredsson
    Henrik Zetterberg
    Michael Nylander
    Daniel Sedin
    Henrik Sedin
    Fredrik Modin
    Nils Ekman
    Per-Johan Axelsson
    Tomas Holmström
    Jörgen Jönsson

    Other possibilities: Kristian Huselius, Samuel Påhlsson, Marcus Nilson, Mattias Weinhandl, Fredrik Sjöström

    Defense:
    Nicklas Lidström
    Mattias Öhlund
    Mattias Norström
    Kim Johnsson
    Dick Tärnström
    Niclas Hävelid


    Other possibilities: Marcus Ragnarsson, Kenny Jönsson, Daniel Tjärnqvist, Christian Bäckman

    Goaltenders:

    Mikael Tellqvist
    Tommy Salo
    Henrik Lundqvist

    Other possibilities: Johan Hedberg, Stefan Liv

    Some Comments:
    Nothing to complain about the forwards and defensemen. Goalies are somewhat questionable compared to for example Canada, USA. Overall a strong team that I think will have a good shot in the tournament, unless they face Belarus. :)
     
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    I like our depth at defense. I think that it is our biggest strength.
     
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    You don't think Alfredsson will be on your World Cup team? o_O
     
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    The Finnish team will change almost completely. Only one of the six offensive NHL forwards was now playing, the defense corps had only two NHL defensemen and all of the goalies will (hopefully) be replaced as well. Only the checking lines can remain, but those players are the most expendable ones.
     
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    Will Malone play for the US in the World Cup?
    He must be a possibility after a good WC tournament.
     
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    No. He's a budding star, but he's not there yet.
     
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    lol, no. I hear you'll have to have a respectable haircut to be eligible to play and Alfie has no plans of getting a decent haircut :);)

    he's there now :)
     
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    CANADA

    World Cup!

    Forwards

    Lemeiux
    Sakic
    Iginla
    Primeau
    Heatly
    Nash
    Smyth
    Madden
    St. Louis
    Thornton
    Lecalvier
    Kariya

    Other possibilities: Marleau, Bertuzzi, ?

    Deffence:

    Blake
    Pronger
    Niedemyer
    Jovanoski
    Brewer
    Reden
    Aucoin

    Other Possibilities: McCabe, Foote, Morris, ?

    Goalies:

    Brodeur
    Luongo
    Theodore

    Other possibilitie: Guigier(sp), Belfore ?
     
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    Agreed, 10 defensemen I could put in anytime without being worried.

    Two other experienced NHL d-men is Anders Eriksson (though I know many doesn't like him) and Mattias Timander could also be added to the depth chart as reliable d-men IMO.

    Andreas Lilja and especially Henrik Tallinder need more development.
     
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    Guigier(sp)
    hahaha
    it's Giguère
     
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    Forgive me Blackshad!
     
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    World Championships

    Coach: Mike Babcock

    Forwards:
    Cooke-Morrison-Murray
    Morrow-Briere-Heatley
    Horcoff-R. Niedermayer-Smyth
    Dumont/Friesen-Bergeron-Williams

    Also:

    Defense:
    Scott Niedermayer
    Jay Bouwmeester
    Steve Staios
    Eric Brewer
    Derek Morris
    Nick Schultz
    Willie Mitchell


    Goaltenders:
    Roberto Luongo
    JS Giguere
    Marc Denis



    World Cup:

    Coach: Fat Quinn

    Projected roster:

    Forwards:
    Mario Lemieux (if healthy a lock)
    Joe Sakic (lock)
    Jarome Iginla (lock)
    Paul Kariya (lock)
    Dany Heatley (lock with strong Worlds showing - Canada's best player)
    Joe Thornton (lock - you can't overlook him AGAIN)
    Todd Bertuzzi (lock pending he is allowed to play)
    Martin St. Louis (lock, great playoffs, regular season scoring champ - cant pass him up)
    Simon Gagne (played very good in 2002 and his speed would be an asset)
    Ryan Smyth (I think we need his style of play again - brings a lot of experience on the international level)
    Mike Peca/Keith Primeau (one of these guys, but not both - with the way Primeau has played lately I think he has the edge)
    Alex Tanguay (Without injuries, probably would have been top 5 scorer)
    Shane Doan (Gretzky has went out and said he will be on the team, has his mind changed? If he doesn't make it then it's betweem Marleau, Lecavalier, Murray depending on what they're looking for)

    Iginla Sakic Heatley
    Kariya Lemieux St.Louis
    Doan Thornton Bertuzzi
    Smyth Primeau Tanguay
    Gagne - can sub in anywhere almost

    Other possibilities: Glen Murray, Vincent Lecavalier, Brad Richards, Brendan Morrison, Rick Nash, Jason Spezza, Daniel Briere, Patrick Marleau

    Defense:
    Rob Blake (lock)
    Chris Pronger (lock)
    Ed Jovanovski (lock)
    Adam Foote (lock)
    Scott Niedermayer (lock)
    Wade Redden (I think he's the next best choice)
    Jay Bouwmeester (I dont know if he will be the 7th but I think he is the best suited guy here. Gain more experience and his skating is world class which I think would really help us. Named top d-man at last years Worlds, having another solid outhing there this year)

    Pronger Blake
    Jovanovski Niedermayer
    Redden Foote
    Bouwmeester

    Other possibilities: (2 front runners to rival Redden and Bouwmeester) Brian McCabe, Adrian Aucoin,
    Barret Jackman (long shot), Al MacInnis, Eric Brewer, Derek Morris (long shot), Sheldon Souray (long shot - injuries concern)

    Goaltenders:

    Martin Brodeur (lock)
    Roberto Luongo (lock)
    Jose Theodore (close between him and Turco but Turco's play in the last 2 seasons during playoffs is a huge concern)

    Other possibilities: Ed Belfour, Marty Turco, JS Giguere

    Sorry But You Don't Cut It This Time Around
    Al MacInnis - I think his playing days are over
    Theo Fleury - I know his playing days are over, especially with Canada
    Eric Lindros - dissapointed at SLC, can't see him getting better this time around, especially a concussion later
    Joe Nieuwendyk - better players than him this time around
    Owen Nolan - Nolan or Bertuzzi hmmmmmm
    Brendan Shanahan - Shanahan 5 years ago yes, but he just isn't the same
    Steve Yzerman - As much as it pains me I think he is done, his leadership was a huge asset to us in 2002
    Eric Brewer - Redden, Aucoin, McCabe, Bouwmeester take your pick, even with his Gold in 2002, he just doesn't cut it


    **KEEP IN MIND THAT PLAYOFFS AND WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS ARE BEING TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION** therefor a lot of my picks are being supported by that
     
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    Good choices Heater15!
     
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    Heater 15:

    Good choices but,

    Brewer over Redden: (Salt Lake experience + Brewer is at 2004 Worlds + has Lowe's backing)

    Belfour over Theo: (Belfour had better 2004 playoffs, Gretzky more comfortable with 2 experienced + 1 young goalie, not 1 experienced + 2 young)

    Team will be named next week, too late for Bertuzzi I fear.

    Serious injuries to other power forwards Doan + Nolan open the door for MARLEAU who is having an amazing playoff.

    Don't underestimate the value of experience. Nieuwendyk + Yzerman can both still play at a high level, they're proven champions, are valued by Gretzky and will make team if healthy. Shanahan underacheived and will not.

    I agree with you that Primeau is in over Peca.

    I'm glad you didn't leave out Gagné. He doesn't score as much as seasons past because Hitchcock has made him a more complete two-way player. 2002 experience is invaluable. Ditto Smyth. And both are still playing.
     
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    Team Russia World Cup Roster
    Coach : Boris Mikhailov (it's going to be a disaster :banghead: )

    FORWARDS
    Fedorov
    Yashin
    Zhamnov
    Datsyuk
    Kovalev
    Kovalchuk
    Samsonov
    Ovechkin
    V. Bure
    Morozov
    Frolov
    Kvasha

    Questionable : Mogilny, P. Bure, Viktor Kozlov, Slava Kozlov

    DEFENSEMEN
    Tverdovsky
    D. Markov
    Gonchar
    Kasparaitis
    Kalinin
    A. Markov
    Malakhov
    Ulanov

    Questionable : Zubov, Zhitnik, Yushkevitch, B. Mironov

    GOALIES
    Khabibulin
    Nabokov
    Sokolov
     
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    Coach: Mikhailov..........what's with Tikhonov ? :huh:
     
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    he's going down, I read it yesterday, and the Federation is going to appoint Boris Mikhailov as the coach for the WC. It's not 100% sure, but from what I've read in today's Russian online press, it's going to be Mikhailov.

    What a disaster it's going to be, just remember 1996 ...
     
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    There won't be much change for Germany other then adding Marco Sturm(if ready and allowed by San Jose) and Marcel Goc for offense and Christian Ehrhoff,Sascha Goc and Dennis Seidenberg for defense.
     
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    I will try to do the Czech roster:

    World Championships:

    Coach: Slavomir Lener

    Goalies:
    Vokoun Tomas
    Cechmanek Roman
    Salficky Dusan (CSKA - Russian Superleague)


    Defense:
    Spacek Jaroslav
    Hejda Jan (CSKA - Russian Superleague)
    Hamr Radek (Färjestad BK - SWE)
    Slegr Jiri
    Hamrlik Roman
    Skoula Martin
    Novak Jan (Slavia Praha - Czech)
    Kaberle Frantisek

    Offense :
    Hlinka Jaroslav (Kloten Flyers - Swiss league)
    Vyborny David
    Straka Martin
    Kraft Milan
    Havlat Martin
    Rucinsky Martin
    Prospal Vaclav
    Jagr Jaromir
    Hlavac Jan
    Dvorak Radek
    Dopita Jiri (Pardubice - Czech)
    Sup Michal (Slavia Praha - Czech)
    Beranek Josef (Slavia Praha - Czech)
    Prucha Petr (Pardubice - Czech)

    The world Cup:

    Coach: Ivan Hlinka (yes, many say he already recieved the offer to become the head coach, Lener will be the head coach of Sparta Prague. This was not due to unsuccesful chaps. for Czech, he signed the contract a month ago or so)

    Goalies:
    Vokoun Tomas
    Cechmanek Roman
    Salficky Dusan

    Other notables: Hasek??? never know, Malek might replace Salficky.

    Defense:
    Kubina Pavel
    Hamrlik Roman
    Kaberle Tomas
    Zidlicky Marek
    Spacek Jaroslav
    Skoula Martin
    Slegr Jiri

    Other notables: Modry, Fischer, Rachunek, Malik, Klesla.

    Offense:
    Jagr Jaromir
    Straka Martin
    Lang Robert
    Hejduk Milan
    Bonk Radek
    Havlat Martin
    Sykora Petr
    Cajanek Petr
    Elias Patrik
    Dvorak Radek
    Nedved Patr
    Rucinsky Martin
    Reichel Robert

    Other notables: Hemsky, Holik, Prospal, Vyborny, Erat, Varada.


    Wow, I do not envy the coach his job in here. So many names, and almost noone on my roster from Europe, due to the small ring, I think none of europeans skaters will be invited.
     
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  23. Iggy Sakic Heatley
    Kariya Lemieux Bert
    Thronton Lecavalier st louis
    Doan Marleau Nash

    Pronger Nidermayer
    Foote Blake
    Redden McCabe

    Broduer
    Eddie B
    Luongo

    those would be my choices
     
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    I'll take Redden every single day of the week over Brewer. I believe Gretzky has said Redden is a lock in the past. Redden is consistent every night and that's what you need for the World Cup. Brewer hasn't been very good at the World Championships and doesn't deserve to be at the World Cup over Redden atm.
     
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    I agree with sting, Redden plays awesome, hes great offensively and defensively.
    I think he should have been a candidate for the Norris.

    Also, you cant forget about McCabe and Aucoin they should be 7 and 8 defense.
     
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