Confirmed with Link: Wisniewski Bought Out

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Seidenberg signed to a 2 year deal tomorrow is my guess. Not that i want him.
 

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Yeah, I'd really have liked to see what he brought to the ice before we decided to discard him. I mean, we're really banking on zero regression from our young defensemen now...
 

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It's not a matter of money. It's a matter of having Faulk, Slavin, Hainsey, Hanifin, Pesce, and Murphy (well RFA) under contract and Wiz not being an option for exposure in the expansion draft unless we extended him.
 

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The money savings don't really make sense when it's such a trifling amount. Even if they were struggling to make payroll, an effective Wiz would still be worth more to the organization than the insignificant savings (1/3rd of his remaining contract MINUS whatever they pay a replacement player). And the cap savings is completely useless to us. It may actually make things harder, if we end up spending extra just to squeak over the cap minimum.

This only makes sense if they felt Wiz was worse than the player who will replace him.
 

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It's also a matter that when Faulk gets injured again, the Hurricanes will either have to test a career AHL'er, a rookie (McKweon) or play someone on their left side.

With Wiz you had Faulk, Wiz, Pesce, then a qualified Murphy (who I think was good enough in a 6th dman role, but whose inability to deal with physicality on the forecheck is his biggest issue) as the 7th defenseman.

But now, now now, not soon, not later, now, we are one Faulk injury away from a guy playing serious minutes on his offside (which I don't like) or Murphy playing top-4 minutes (also no).

Optimistically, they'll sign a cheap veteran RHD and then focus most of Wiz's money on a winger- so I hope this is an indication of a trade or signing.
 

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If we didn't buy him out, we were staring at carrying 8 defenseman if we're keeping Murphy which now I think we are.

To go further, we have to expose someone for the 40/70 requirement. Hanifin, Slavin, Pesce are exempt. Hainsey doesn't have a contract for 17-18, so nope. That's 4 down already. That leaves Wiz, Murphy, Faulk. Wiz doesn't have a contract for 17-18. Murphy needs 35 games next season to meet the 70 game over two seasons requirement. If we kept Wiz, we'd be swapping him out every other game just to get Murphy his requirement because we sure as hell aren't exposing Faulk. At that point, what's the point in keeping Wiz if he's not back to where he started? So, we decided to cut him and go after someone else who can take his place and meet the requirement himself.

I think I have that right. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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Until I read otherwise, here's what I'm assuming, in order:

1. The team is only at $33 million cap hit for next year and no one due for a big raise. This could help us get to the cap floor.

2. Make a roster space for Carrick

3. Make room for Murphy if he ends up re-signing.

I don't think it's to save money, because we're going to be over the cap floor with Rask's contract, and RF's still trying to obtain a top 6 forward.

Fixed this. Carrick must be ready
 

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There's a lot that goes into these decisions. I know when some players get hurt, they can drop off the radar in terms of being connected to the guys in the room. If Carolina brought him in to be a mentor, then they may not have liked what they saw or didn't see from how Wiz handled that role. Interesting that there was no quote that accompanied the story. Not sure if that's standard procedure on buyouts or not. I'm so used to Francis offering a little bit of commentary on all roster moves. I would just caution against jumping directly to this being a penny pinching move. We just don't have all the details to make that call.
 

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It is also seems a bit odd that this buyout occurred at the very last possible second it could have happened, right? 5 PM on June 30th? All other buyouts were announced much earlier today by BMac.
 

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Odd. Sucks we will never know for sure what he could have been here.

Hope Francis has something good ready to go tomorrow.
 

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It is also seems a bit odd that this buyout occurred at the very last possible second it could have happened, right? 5 PM on June 30th? All other buyouts were announced much earlier today by BMac.
It's because the other guys were announced as being bought out when they were placed on waivers at noon today. Wisniewski couldn't go on waivers due to his NMC.
 

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If the tweet I read was correct, the Canes have to spend $5 million just to get to the floor. If true, then there's a decent size move coming.

This is assuming Rask is somewhere in the $3 million range.

Is that right?
 

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It's because the other guys were announced as being bought out when they were placed on waivers at noon today. Wisniewski couldn't go on waivers due to his NMC.

Ahh Ok... I thought Tyutin was in the group of those bought out today (he also had a NMC), but I was wrong.
 

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The thing with waiting to see if the 32yo coming off a major injury after coming out of the anaheim press box can still play, is that if he isn't back all the way, then you're stuck with him. Buying him out seems like the safe play.

And it isn't really saving a million, because they have to replace him, which will cost at least a million.

I think it is just risk aversion. They didn't want to risk having a broken down Wiz taking up a spot in the lineup.

Probably smart. A nice little move to make the team more competitive, unfortunately, there have yet to be any big moves to make the team competitive. Still time though, I suppose.
 

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If the tweet I read was correct, the Canes have to spend $5 million just to get to the floor. If true, then there's a decent size move coming.

This is assuming Rask is somewhere in the $3 million range.

Is that right?

We'll be at $46.33 million now and need to get up to $54 million, so yes if that's what Rask goes for.
 
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IMO this is not a bad move. No team would take his cap hit (5,5 M) and I would rather see some younger guys having more ice time, not Wiz trying to come back after injury to his old level.
 

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