Blue Jays Discussion: Alright, no more discontent. Just baseball | ST in Mtl: StL @ Tor | Mar 26/27 7pm ET/4pm PT

[zeke]

Ben Nicholson-Smith @bnicholsonsmith
31s
Kevin Pillar worked on mobility & lost 15 Lbs. this off-season. Why? He wants to make harder, more consistent contact, become more of a threat on the bases, and even improve defensively
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#BSOHL

 

[phillipmike]

Does he even have 15 pounds to lose? Put Morales on the work out plan.

 

[McFly2544]

So where do we think Biagini provides most value this season?

Back to the bullpen or starting the season in Buffalo as the 6th starter/1st call-up

 

[Discoverer]

Ben Nicholson-Smith @bnicholsonsmith
31s
Kevin Pillar worked on mobility & lost 15 Lbs. this off-season. Why? He wants to make harder, more consistent contact, become more of a threat on the bases, and even improve defensively
sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/b… #BlueJays

#BSOHL

Hopefully losing 15 pounds improves his pitch recognition and plate discipline because that's what's actually preventing him from making "harder, more consistent contact".

 

[Nineteen67]

So where do we think Biagini provides most value this season?

Back to the bullpen or starting the season in Buffalo as the 6th starter/1st call-up

Great question.
For this year probably the pen

If he wants to be a starter then Buffalo.

 

[phillipmike]

The Pirates announced that they’ve acquired outfielder Corey Dickerson from the Rays in exchange for reliever Daniel Hudson, minor league infielder Tristan Gray and cash.

Underwhelming as we thought. But you can never count the Rays out when it comes to prospects - they love their middle infielders.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Hopefully losing 15 pounds improves his pitch recognition and plate discipline because that's what's actually preventing him from making "harder, more consistent contact".

I just hope it extends the life of his defensive value.

 

[zeke]

Hopefully losing 15 pounds improves his pitch recognition and plate discipline because that's what's actually preventing him from making "harder, more consistent contact".

eh, he'll never improve those, but if he can go back mentally and physically to being a bit more of a slaphitting / running/ fielding guy, he might be able to creep his value back to being a plus starter again.

 

[zeke]

So where do we think Biagini provides most value this season?

Back to the bullpen or starting the season in Buffalo as the 6th starter/1st call-up

Being in the bullpen doesn't stop him from being the 6th starter.

 

[Drew311]

So Dickerson was literally given away to the Pirates for a gas can reliever and a nothing prospect. Still a head scratcher why he didn't have more trade value. I wonder if he's headcase or something.

 

[The Nemesis]

So Dickerson was literally given away to the Pirates for a gas can reliever and a nothing prospect. Still a head scratcher why he didn't have more trade value. I wonder if he's headcase or something.

Unless the Rays particularly like something about the prospects they got back. Sometimes teams attach a lot of value to other clubs' "meh" prospects for reasons we can't readily see from the outside.

 

[McFly2544]

Being in the bullpen doesn't stop him from being the 6th starter.

True, but they had him yo-yo enough last year with poor results so I would think they'd like to give him a defined role.

 

[The Nemesis]

Temporarily altered the thread title to note that there's a game on TV tomorrow afternoon/morning.

Projected starters are:
PHI - Jerad Eickhoff (24 gs, 128 IP, 4.71/4.30/4.72 ERA/FIP/SIERA)
vs
TOR - Joe Biagini (18/44 gs/gp, 119.2 IP, 5.34/4.27/4.28 ERA/FIP/SIERA)
*stat lines are their 2017 stats with their respective MLB clubs. Click for fangraphs pages)

I have seen no word yet on what the linup or stream of post-Biagini pitchers will look like. Though I'm honestly not holding my breath for a lot of name-brand prospects or starting lineup regulars.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[zeke]

True, but they had him yo-yo enough last year with poor results so I would think they'd like to give him a defined role.

funny enough, his best time as SP came immediately after he moved over from the pen.

the more he started, the worse he got. and his later AAA stint didn't help.

 

[Drew311]

Unless the Rays particularly like something about the prospects they got back. Sometimes teams attach a lot of value to other clubs' "meh" prospects for reasons we can't readily see from the outside.

Although it doesn't really match up with the timing of the trade, since they had to DFA him first. If anyone offered anything of significance i'm sure the deal would have happened a long time ago. This seems like a last resort kind of deal.

 

[TootooTrain]

I have seen no word yet on what the linup or stream of post-Biagini pitchers will look like. Though I'm honestly not holding my breath for a lot of name-brand prospects or starting lineup regulars.

First lineup stuff I've seen confirmed. Will probably see prospects/rookies/depth in the first game.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[phillipmike]

Rays top pitching prospect Brent Honeywell has been diagnosed with a torn ulnar collateral ligament in his right elbow, tweets Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times. Tommy John surgery has been recommended for the promising 22-year-old.

That really sucks.

 

[zeke]

 

[phillipmike]

MLB.com released and is releasing their top 30 prospects by team. The have the following schedule;

Team Top 30 Prospects schedule:
Mon., Feb. 19 - AL East
Tue., Feb. 20 - NL East
Wed., Feb. 21 - AL Central
Thu., Feb. 22 - NL Central
Fri., Feb. 23 - AL West
Mon., Feb. 26 - NL West

If a team's list is not posted on the dates above, that team will be in our ranking of MLB's Top 10 farm systems, which will come out according to this schedule:
Tue., Feb. 27 - Nos. 9 & 10
Wed., Feb. 28 - Nos. 7 & 8
Thu., March 1 - Nos. 4-6
Fri., March 2 - Nos. 1-3

MLB.com 2018 Prospect Watch

The Jays should have had their list out already but looking at the red it means they are a top 10 farm according the MLB.com and will be released on the schedule noted above.

So it is assumed that some of the teams who will be in the top 10 can be determined. Of the teams that should be listed but arent are; the Jays, Yankees, Rays, Braves, Phillies, White Sox, and the Reds. So those 7 teams will be in the top 10... The remaining 3 teams will be from the AL and NL West (AL West is coming out today). But i will assume the Astros, Dodgers and Padres will hold the last 3 spots in the top 10.

Braves, Padres, White Sox, Yankees, Astros, Dodgers, Reds, Phillies, Ray and Jays. I assume the Jays are anywhere from 7 to 10. I would guess 9 or 10 but i wonder if Whitley's suspension or Honeywell's injury plays a factor because if it does then i would move the Astros and Rays below the Jays.

Whats your top 10 ranking guess?

 

[zeke]

don't be surprised to see grandy in the one spot a lot.

 

[Nineteen67]

MLB.com released and is releasing their top 30 prospects by team. The have the following schedule;



MLB.com 2018 Prospect Watch

The Jays should have had their list out already but looking at the red it means they are a top 10 farm according the MLB.com and will be released on the schedule noted above.

So it is assumed that some of the teams who will be in the top 10 can be determined. Of the teams that should be listed but arent are; the Jays, Yankees, Rays, Braves, Phillies, White Sox, and the Reds. So those 7 teams will be in the top 10... The remaining 3 teams will be from the AL and NL West (AL West is coming out today). But i will assume the Astros, Dodgers and Padres will hold the last 3 spots in the top 10.

Braves, Padres, White Sox, Yankees, Astros, Dodgers, Reds, Phillies, Ray and Jays. I assume the Jays are anywhere from 7 to 10. I would guess 9 or 10 but i wonder if Whitley's suspension or Honeywell's injury plays a factor because if it does then i would move the Astros and Rays below the Jays.

Whats your top 10 ranking guess?

Where did you find that lineup?

 

[Eyedea]

MLB.com released and is releasing their top 30 prospects by team. The have the following schedule;



MLB.com 2018 Prospect Watch

The Jays should have had their list out already but looking at the red it means they are a top 10 farm according the MLB.com and will be released on the schedule noted above.

So it is assumed that some of the teams who will be in the top 10 can be determined. Of the teams that should be listed but arent are; the Jays, Yankees, Rays, Braves, Phillies, White Sox, and the Reds. So those 7 teams will be in the top 10... The remaining 3 teams will be from the AL and NL West (AL West is coming out today). But i will assume the Astros, Dodgers and Padres will hold the last 3 spots in the top 10.

Braves, Padres, White Sox, Yankees, Astros, Dodgers, Reds, Phillies, Ray and Jays. I assume the Jays are anywhere from 7 to 10. I would guess 9 or 10 but i wonder if Whitley's suspension or Honeywell's injury plays a factor because if it does then i would move the Astros and Rays below the Jays.

Whats your top 10 ranking guess?

Not how I would necessarily rank them, but how I expect it to go down:

1. Braves
2. White Sox
3. Yankees
4. Padres
5. Rays
6. Reds
7. Jays
8. Phillies
9. Astros
10. Dodgers

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

don't be surprised to see grandy in the one spot a lot.

I don't mind it vs RHP to start the season. The only other guy I prefer leading off is Travis (at least until Alford is ready), but he historically has his least success batting 1st. Honestly, wouldn't mind going

v. RHP: Granderson - Donaldson - Smoak - Travis - Solarte - Grichuk - Martin - Tulo - Pillar

v. LHP: Travis - Donaldson - Smoak - Morales - Pearce - Martin - Grichuk - Tulo - Pillar