Winnipeg Jets select LW Erik Foley (3/17)

[jetsforever]

I like the typical winnipeg part. It seems like we're getting a reputation for our drafting.

Yeah it's gotten to the point where it's no longer a coincidence

 

[KingBogo]

Yeah it's gotten to the point where it's no longer a coincidence

yup. Chevy knows what he is doing at the draft table.

 

[puck stoppa]

This guy is a bit under rated IMO, he is my fave dark horse prospect that I think could develop very well in time.

 

[Romang67]

This guy is a bit under rated IMO, he is my fave dark horse prospect that I think could develop very well in time.

It's funny, cause I'm usually a big believer in fancy stats, but I really like Foley.

 

[puck stoppa]

It's funny, cause I'm usually a big believer in fancy stats, but I really like Foley.

I like him as a sleeper and when he's ranked #17 on our boards, what does that say about our depth

 

[EastRiver]

For me Foley has been the one draft pick of our from this year that hasn't been getting much attention because of our other 4 top 5 picks but he is staring to grow on me.

 

[puck stoppa]

For me Foly has been the one draft pick of our from this year that hasn't been getting much attention because of our other 4 top 5 picks but he is staring to grow on me.

I think he warrants more attention than Spacek that's for sure, and I like Spacek.

 

[garret9]

It's funny, cause I'm usually a big believer in fancy stats, but I really like Foley.

Not really fancy stats in saying that players that make the NHL tend to score more than Foley does.

That said you have to remember that stats do not make decisions/evaluations for you but give information to allow you to make better decisions/evaluations.

For low scoring players like Foley, you ask some questions:
* was his low scoring due to factors outside of his ability
* do you see him developing into a player that can score
* what is it that separates him from the players who scored like him
* what other skills does he carry other than those that impact scoring and how much should those be valued

Myself, I always thought that Foley, much like Poolman, has the skill that I could see them being exceptions to their odds. They have the tools that separates them from players that score at their pace for their age and can see them scoring more in the future.

 

[Whileee]

Not really fancy stats in saying that players that make the NHL tend to score more than Foley does.

That said you have to remember that stats do not make decisions/evaluations for you but give information to allow you to make better decisions/evaluations.

For low scoring players like Foley, you ask some questions:
* was his low scoring due to factors outside of his ability
* do you see him developing into a player that can score
* what is it that separates him from the players who scored like him
* what other skills does he carry other than those that impact scoring and how much should those be valued

Myself, I always thought that Foley, much like Poolman, has the skill that I could see them being exceptions to their odds. They have the tools that separates them from players that score at their pace for their age and can see them scoring more in the future.

I agree. In Foley's case, one might also consider the team performance, and where he stands within the team. He led his team in points, and was second in points/game. The only other two forwards close to him were are 2 and 3 years older than him.

 

[Grind]

Not really fancy stats in saying that players that make the NHL tend to score more than Foley does.

That said you have to remember that stats do not make decisions/evaluations for you but give information to allow you to make better decisions/evaluations.

For low scoring players like Foley, you ask some questions:
* was his low scoring due to factors outside of his ability
* do you see him developing into a player that can score
* what is it that separates him from the players who scored like him
* what other skills does he carry other than those that impact scoring and how much should those be valued

Myself, I always thought that Foley, much like Poolman, has the skill that I could see them being exceptions to their odds. They have the tools that separates them from players that score at their pace for their age and can see them scoring more in the future.

With our new setup foleY still looks pretty decent from a scoring perspective. 20% success rate of similar scoring similar height drafted USHL players. Sample size of about 23 I believe.

This should correct for the favorable USHL NHLE we had that bumped him to over 30% originally.

Maybe not a "steal" but definitely proper value for his round

 

[EastRiver]

I think he warrants more attention than Spacek that's for sure, and I like Spacek.

Interesting. After our first round picks Spacek is probably the guy I'm highest on. Although with Harkins + Foley as our other two it's hard to pick.

 

[Romang67]

Not really fancy stats in saying that players that make the NHL tend to score more than Foley does.

That said you have to remember that stats do not make decisions/evaluations for you but give information to allow you to make better decisions/evaluations.

For low scoring players like Foley, you ask some questions:
* was his low scoring due to factors outside of his ability
* do you see him developing into a player that can score
* what is it that separates him from the players who scored like him
* what other skills does he carry other than those that impact scoring and how much should those be valued

Myself, I always thought that Foley, much like Poolman, has the skill that I could see them being exceptions to their odds. They have the tools that separates them from players that score at their pace for their age and can see them scoring more in the future.

Well, stats in general then.

With our new setup foleY still looks pretty decent from a scoring perspective. 20% success rate of similar scoring similar height drafted USHL players. Sample size of about 23 I believe.

This should correct for the favorable USHL NHLE we had that bumped him to over 30% originally.

Maybe not a "steal" but definitely proper value for his round

How does Connor look with the new setup?

 

[Grind]

Well, stats in general then.



How does Connor look with the new setup?

Still amazing. Only comp to score within .1 ppg in their draft year out of the USHL and is the same height is Paul statsney.

If you increase that to .5 ppg its 70% with 3 elites, 3 first liners, and 1 third liner. Note: in this data set Connor is still the highest scoring.

Paul statsney is almost identical to connor for DY production in terms of scoring age and height.

 

[Jesus Christ Horburn]

Stolen from the prospects forum:

 

[Constable]

hows he been doing

 

[Jets4Life]

He did ok at Providence College. 19 points in 36 games as a rookie. Interesting to note that the Jets offered a contract to Brandon Tanev, his teammate at Providence, although Tanev is nearly 6 years older.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

I believe he had a better 2 nd half to the season. Next year I am hoping to see him make a big jump in his development. His team had 5/6 graduations to their forward group. He should get more ice time and opportunities.

 

[Aavco Cup]

I believe he had a better 2 nd half to the season. Next year I am hoping to see him make a big jump in his development. His team had 5/6 graduations to their forward group. He should get more ice time and opportunities.

He had a concussion early in the season. I think it had an effect on how his year went.

 

[mazmin]

He'll never be a big time point producer but I can see him doubling his points next season on a top line in Providence.

 

[DEANYOUNGBLOOD17]

Providence is more D-fence system orientated and big points are hard to come by. I like his moxy and style...... I am hoping he continues to develope and we end up with Ward/ Lowery/Ott. Type of player in 2-3 years.

 

[JetsFan815]

Solid year for Foley, probably exceeded expectations for a 3rd round pick slightly. Would like to see him in a bigger role next season with Jankowski turning pro

 

[csk]

Solid year for Foley, probably exceeded expectations for a 3rd round pick slightly. Would like to see him in a bigger role next season with Jankowski turning pro

He certainly exceeded my expectations, but I wasn't too excited about the pick

 

[CorgisPer60]

Bit of an update. Foley has been at the National Junior Evaluation Camp, auditioning for a roster spot for the WJCs in January. Sounds like he's turning heads and making a strong impression.

http://m.thn.com/blog/jets-pick-erik-foley-is-turning-heads-with-team-usa/

 

[Halfy]

people have been high on the kid during the USA summer camp.Nice to see.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Bit of an update. Foley has been at the National Junior Evaluation Camp, auditioning for a roster spot for the WJCs in January. Sounds like he's turning heads and making a strong impression.

http://m.thn.com/blog/jets-pick-erik-foley-is-turning-heads-with-team-usa/

Has he grown? Everywhere I find him listed as 6', 185.

“Foley again was a real bright spot,” said coach Bob Motzko. “He’s a big body, plays a north-south game and gets the puck deep in the zone. He’s a big, strong athlete, so he can stay out there and not lose a lot of energy. He deserved to be out there, he’s been playing real well.”

Or does he just play bigger than he is?