Wilson charging on Wennberg (no supplementary discipline)

[Chips]

Certainly not a suspension. Not as bad as Anderson’s either. Traveled less distance intending to hit (if I remember right, haven’t seen Anderson’s since last night), was less late (barely late if at all).

Size of the hit is irrelevant. Wilson is a big, strong player, his hit will look bigger; doesn’t make it less legal.

 

[izlez]

Wennberg didn't have his head down at any point during this play. He cannot turn his head 180 degrees like an owl, therefore he had no physical way to see Wilson approaching him from behind to lay a completely unnecessary hit the instant he turned back up ice.

ok. Behind him.

Why should I care if he sees him approaching or not, if the hit is otherwise clean? He didn't hit him in the back.

 

[tarheelhockey]

ok. Behind him.

Why should I care if he sees him approaching or not, if the hit is otherwise clean? He didn't hit him in the back.

Because body checking is supposed to serve a defensive purpose, to separate players from the puck. Not to make a game of "gotcha" hits where you try and take people out when they're nowhere near the puck and not able to see you coming.

Not to mention, it's a cowardly way to play the game. We used to not have to deal with this kind of junk because there was fighting to balance it out. If we can't have fighting, we can't have this either.

 

[Chips]

The words “dirty” and especially “filthy” lose some meaning on this forum every time there’s a Wilson thread

 

[hector morrison]

Because body checking is supposed to serve a defensive purpose, to separate players from the puck. Not to make a game of "gotcha" hits where you try and take people out when they're nowhere near the puck and not able to see you coming.

Not to mention, it's a cowardly way to play the game. We used to not have to deal with this kind of junk because there was fighting to balance it out. If we can't have fighting, we can't have this either.

Well said! So, Wilson really got no suspension for this? I think it's worse than what Doughty did! Perhaps Kadri will not be suspended as well!

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Not sure if this is suspendable based on the replays shown.

Is there an angle that shows this in better detail? With more context?

 

[izlez]

Because body checking is supposed to serve a defensive purpose, to separate players from the puck. Not to make a game of "gotcha" hits where you try and take people out when they're nowhere near the puck and not able to see you coming.

Not to mention, it's a cowardly way to play the game. We used to not have to deal with this kind of junk because there was fighting to balance it out. If we can't have fighting, we can't have this either.

That's fine....if you want to change the rules.
I just don't get complaining about a play, demanding a suspension, or criticizing a player for playing within the rules that are set out in front of him.

 

[tarheelhockey]

That's fine....if you want to change the rules.
I just don't get complaining about a play, demanding a suspension, or criticizing a player for playing within the rules that are set out in front of him.

Remember, that’s exactly what the situation was for the Cooke/Savard hit.

 

[StephenPeat]

Remember, that’s exactly what the situation was for the Cooke/Savard hit.

And every single hit Scott Stevens ever made. It's a contact sport, you're going to occasionally get contact you're not expecting that, in no way, makes it illegal or something you can legislate out of the game. It is what it is.

 

[tarheelhockey]

And every single hit Scott Stevens ever made. It's a contact sport, you're going to occasionally get contact you're not expecting that, in no way, makes it illegal or something you can legislate out of the game. It is what it is.

You realize that every example we just cited is now illegal?

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Wilson is so f***ing stupid

 

[BlueDream]

Legal hit.

 

[Calicaps]

Let me puke first for defending Wilson... if Wennberg doesn't bend over/lower himself to turn then Wilson wouldn't hit his head. I've watched the video 20 times trying to fault Wilson but I just can't.
Edit: Let me edit this post. I mean for a suspension. A 2 minute penalty for charging was warranted.

It's this. Wilson shouldn't have jumped into the hit. That was stupid. But he came in from the side, not at the numbers and only made contact with the head because Wennberg bent down. By contrast, Anderson drove Kempny into the boards face first with clear view of the name on the back of his sweater.

One is 2. The other is 5+ a game + should be more but doesn't even seem to rate a thread on HF.

 

[4thTierSport]

Not even sure how this is a penalty.

 

[AcerComputer]

3 games should do it.

 

[MattMartin]

3 games should do it.

 

[StephenPeat]

You realize that every example we just cited is now illegal?

The point is one is revered the other reviled. The game has changed yet Scott Stevens didn't win fewer Cups because of it. If you think Tom Wilson should be suspended or even penalized for legally hitting a guy who didn't see him coming I'm sorry that's ridiculous. Nothing Wilson did was sufficiently outside the rules to require supplemental discipline. There was likely head contact that was incidental and a result of a legal hit, it happens.

You question the defensive purpose of the hit Wilson laid? The next time Wennberg is in the same situation and makes an errant play on the puck without awareness of who's coming from where don't you think he's going to be looking over his shoulder? I'm pretty sure that alone serves defensive purpose.

I guess every forechecker should just politely inquire if the opposing player wants to be hit when they go for a puck retrieval and if they reply in the affirmative the attacking player should be certain their target is comfortable and braced before pursuing the hit?

 

[egelband]

Wilson being Wilson. Although the hit doesn't look that bad, Wennberg doesn't look like he was expecting the hit at all.

When you’re tied up with one guy and then another guy steams in from the blindside, it makes sense.
Chickenshit Wilson.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

It's this. Wilson shouldn't have jumped into the hit. That was stupid. But he came in from the side, not at the numbers and only made contact with the head because Wennberg bent down. By contrast, Anderson drove Kempny into the boards face first with clear view of the name on the back of his sweater.

One is 2. The other is 5+ a game + should be more but doesn't even seem to rate a thread on HF.

Lol sure. Except that one went up right away.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/josh-anderson-tossed-for-boarding-kempny.2477113/

 

[egelband]

Because body checking is supposed to serve a defensive purpose, to separate players from the puck. Not to make a game of "gotcha" hits where you try and take people out when they're nowhere near the puck and not able to see you coming.

Not to mention, it's a cowardly way to play the game. We used to not have to deal with this kind of junk because there was fighting to balance it out. If we can't have fighting, we can't have this either.

So much truth here.

 

[egelband]

There is a reason certain players are discussed while others are not. Some players hit to impede or remove a player from the puck, others hit to inflict pain. The latter cross the line more time than the former.

Exactly. This is hockey. Not Thunderdome.

 

[lordstanley91]

The majority of hockey fans have gone soff. I’m a Pens fan and I loathe Tom Wilson but come on people, if a hit like that deserves a suspension then hockey is dying.

 

[MAHJ71]

The majority of hockey fans have gone soff. I’m a Pens fan and I loathe Tom Wilson but come on people, if a hit like that deserves a suspension then hockey is dying.

Riiiiiiiiight.

If it was Sidney you would be livid. Move along..

 

[lordstanley91]

Riiiiiiiiight.

If it was Sidney you would be livid. Move along..

I rarely think hits are suspendable no matter who it is. Unless it’s super egregious which this was not. It was an opportunistic borderline hit but not egregious.

 

[MAHJ71]

I rarely think hits are suspendable no matter who it is. Unless it’s super egregious which this was not. It was an opportunistic borderline hit but not egregious.

The puck is long gone, it was a garbage hit.

Nothing was done about it, thats fine too. He'll get whats coming to him.