Proposal: Willy Nylander to Chicago

[CallMeShaft]

Then take a risk with your pick.

Good, that's what I'm saying I want. Hawks have made the most of their last few high picks, so I want them to take the gamble on a prospect rather than a guy who'll help us get back to cap hell.

 

[BM14]

Good, that's what I'm saying I want. Hawks have made the most of their last few high picks, so I want them to take the gamble on a prospect rather than a guy who'll help us get back to cap hell.

Not sure how a productive player getting market value puts you in cap hell but good luck with your pick.

 

[CallMeShaft]

Not sure how a productive player getting market value puts you in cap hell but good luck with your pick.

If his cap hit wasn't an issue, Toronto wouldn't be looking at trading him...

 

[Makar Goes Fast]

Leafs add a 3rd.

Chicago adds a high end young RHD with the value of nylander less the 8th and 27th pick in the draft.

 

[Menzinger]

Could Toronto not flip the picks for a young RHD? Not that I would do this deal as a Hawk fan, but more of a question to Leaf fans saying it doesn't make sense.

Those picks likely hold less value than Nylander.

The odds of either one of them producing a player as good as him are fairly low.

 

[rent free]

If his cap hit wasn't an issue, Toronto wouldn't be looking at trading him...

toronto isn't looking at trading him.

 

[LeafGrief]

If his cap hit wasn't an issue, Toronto wouldn't be looking at trading him...

Good thing they aren't and that this is all just HF BS.

Nylander's value is probably above the 3rd overall this year. Zadnia, Dobson and whoever might end up as better players at the end of the day, but until they have more development under their belt, they don't have the value of a 22 year old with two 60+ point seasons and centre upside.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Good thing they aren't and that this is all just HF BS.

Nylander's value is probably above the 3rd overall this year. Zadnia, Dobson and whoever might end up as better players at the end of the day, but until they have more development under their belt, they don't have the value of a 22 year old with two 60+ point seasons and centre upside.

There is also the low chance they fully bust and the moderate chance they become middle 6 or bottom 4 players.

 

[SnizzNasty88]

they wouldn't win a cup if they made that trade. their issues are goaltending and defense, not scoring and a lack of huge contracts.

Well you’d be getting the better player, so if anything that’s a heavy no go from the Leafs

 

[SnizzNasty88]

I find it hard to believe the Leafs would have no interest in Seabrook in a deal for Nylander. HF gonna HF though.

I find it hard to believe that you find that hard to believe, have you seen that contract? Yikes..

 

[rent free]

Well you’d be getting the better player, so if anything that’s a heavy no go from the Leafs

kane is better than nylander and marner. the leafs would be getting the better player.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Does Chicago have anything of value?

Nope not for Nylander they don't?

 

[Brock Radunske]

I find it hard to believe the Leafs would have no interest in Seabrook in a deal for Nylander. HF gonna HF though.

You must be kidding.
The Leafs will take Seabrook if you add your 1st to him and only get a 2nd back.

 

[Toews2Bickell]

DeBrincat > Nylander

 

[Toews2Bickell]

You must be kidding.
The Leafs will take Seabrook if you add your 1st to him and only get a 2nd back.

So Chicago’s just going to trade a cost controlled three time cup winner and attach a top 10 pick as well? Talk about terrible.

 

[Menzinger]

I find it hard to believe that you find that hard to believe, have you seen that contract? Yikes..

He has one of the worst (though not THE worst) contracts. Has absolutely negative value.

Would likely cost the Hawks the 1st or 2 2nds just get a team to take him

 

[BM14]

If his cap hit wasn't an issue, Toronto wouldn't be looking at trading him...

A) Toronto has plenty of cap space
B) TORONTO isn't looking to trade him. A random poster made a boring summer thread trade proposal.

 

[Lays]

Does Chicago have anything of value?

Debrincat, Jokiharju, Mitchell, Edjsell, Sikura, either of the 1sts, Schmaltz, all good, young assets. Hawks aren’t as f***ed for the future as everyone thinks

 

[rent free]

DeBrincat > Nylander

thats false

 

[Halla]

but but but...that 8th pick could turn INTO a Nylander!

lol leafs laugh at this and hang up. chicago doesnt have a single piece outside of kane that returns willy unless they wanna overpay and send 8+debrincat

 

[Halla]

Schmaltz and DeBrincat individually are as good as Nylander. Why would the Hawks add the 8th overall in a hypothetical deal...

well thats false. schmaltz has 28pt and 52 pt seasons vs nylanders back to back 60. he has done nothing to suggest he is anywhere near nylander. getting whomped to the tune over 42 less pts the last 2 seasons doesnt suggest he is "as good" as Nylander

Debrincat you can make an argument for, but maybe after he gets 60+pts

 

[Halla]

Could Toronto not flip the picks for a young RHD? Not that I would do this deal as a Hawk fan, but more of a question to Leaf fans saying it doesn't make sense.

ok make it a 3 way deal then
why do the leafs take the risk of seeking out another deal?

 

[Brobust]

If Babs can get Seabrook to lose some weight and take care of his diet then he’s a top pair guy again that has big game experience and brings immediate credibility to the Leafs as a contender in the east.

If Quenville can't accomplish that, then neither can Babcock.

 

[Leafidelity]

I think the nicest way to say no to the original proposal is that Nylander was himself an 8th overall pick. And I don't think it's a stretch to say he was a highly successful one. The #27 pick is not even close to enough an add on for it to make sense to take another swing at a draft pick, especially when this one has chemistry with our best player.

 

[djeck42]

deleting because i suck at reading sarcasm