William Karlsson vs Nikolaj Ehlers

[Dion TheFluff]

If Karlsson signed an identical contract to Ehlers (7yrs x 6mil) who do you take moving forward?

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[Halla]

leafs fan choosing ehlers. karlsson hasnt had a double digit goal year until this year. trying to say he is better than nylander or ehlers who were much,much better at a younger age is ridiculous.

karlsson puts up 25-30g/55-60pts tops next year guaranteed

 

[VoluntaryDom]

The younger Ehlers, tho Karlsson is somewhat legit and could be a 30/30 or 25/35 guy with a great two way game moving forward.

 

[DRW204]

Karlsson's first full season in a non-defensive bottom line role he put up 49 g's and 91 pts /97 gp so far while being a top line C and a tenacious defensive player. There is obvious risk that this is a complete aberration, however the chemistry that Smith-Karlsson-Marchessault has IMO keep his floor pretty high around a 30G/30A C with great all-around play. I go with Karlsson but it's a very tough question.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Strong revenge poll

 

[Dion TheFluff]

Strong revenge poll

Out of curiousity which of these 2 players would you take given the circonstances stated above?

 

[tony d]

Ehlers.

 

[olli]

if Karlsson has another season where he's signicantly better than Ehlers than i'll take him. Similar to the Nylander poll, i'll take Ehlers for now.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

if Karlsson has another season where he's signicantly better than Ehlers than i'll take him. Similar to the Nylander poll, i'll take Ehlers for now.

I can agree with this

 

[Halla]

Karlsson's first full season in a non-defensive bottom line role he put up 49 g's and 91 pts /97 gp so far while being a top line C and a tenacious defensive player. There is obvious risk that this is a complete aberration, however the chemistry that Smith-Karlsson-Marchessault has IMO keep his floor pretty high around a 30G/30A C with great all-around play. I go with Karlsson but it's a very tough question.

I think Karlsson is gonna land somewhere between his 6.25 sh% of 2016-2017 and th e 23.4% her had this year.
lets say 15%? even that is generous based on what other stars shoot. that would give him 28g. He is gonna need to shoot more to be a consistent 30g guy

 

[Halla]

this poll is an obvious indication that jets will win just about any poll and the leafs will lose in similar conditions..
2 to 1 for ehlers but nylander losing? these wingers are 2 pts apart over the last 2 seasons.....

 

[Flair Hay]

To me its Karlsson without a hesitation. I'm confused at the results here honestly

 

[StatisticsAddict99]

this poll is an obvious indication that jets will win just about any poll and the leafs will lose in similar conditions..
2 to 1 for ehlers but nylander losing? these wingers are 2 pts apart over the last 2 seasons.....

Or maybe Ehlers is better than Nylander as well.

 

[Kelly]

Or maybe Ehlers is better than Nylander as well.

Nothing tangible points to that -- definitely similar tiered players, anybody who argues otherwise are just influenced by team colors.

 

[Dion TheFluff]

this poll is an obvious indication that jets will win just about any poll and the leafs will lose in similar conditions..
2 to 1 for ehlers but nylander losing? these wingers are 2 pts apart over the last 2 seasons.....

Are you very suprised by the results?
I find it kind of funny that all of the posters who were quite adamant on Karlsson > Nylander AINEC in the other poll didn't say peep in this one.

 

[DonM]

Karlsson easy. Just as with Nylander, I don't expect Ehlers to ever have a season as good as the one Karlsson just had. I think these threads comparing young guys to much older players are pretty silly though.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Ehlers.

Same deal as with Nylander. Just a safer bet.

 

[sr edler]

Karlsson looks real. Even if he dries up a bit offensively next year, compared to this year, he's still strong overall. Ehlers just had a playoffs with 0 goals in 15 games.

 

[bert]

this poll is an obvious indication that jets will win just about any poll and the leafs will lose in similar conditions..
2 to 1 for ehlers but nylander losing? these wingers are 2 pts apart over the last 2 seasons.....

I voted for Karlsson in both. Has nothing to do with the teams involved you can put away your tinfoil hat. *edit after seeing that Karlsson is beating Nylander but not Ehlers I am starting to buy into this theory as much as I hate to admit it.

I understand why people dont think Karlsson will repeat the 40 goals but I think he is a shoe in for be a two way beast 30/30 guy. Which really unless Ehlers and Nylander are scoring at a 75/80 point pace as scoring wingers will not be as valuable of a player. So I guess the real question is do you think Ehlers and Nylander will score that much. If you do then you have an argument, I personally dont see it. Perhaps Nylander some day but I hated his game in the playoffs, I know that can change but you cant teach a player to go to the dirty areas. William Karlsson will go to the dirty areas at both ends of the ice.

 

[IPS]

You'd have to think the Jets management is extremely worried about Ehlers lack of show in the playoffs. Karlsson thrived whereas Ehlers disappeared.

Ehlers is a great player in his own right but perhaps the Jets management would prefer to capitalize on his remaining value and look at trade options? I certainly think it's possible.

 

[bert]

You'd have to think the Jets management is extremely worried about Ehlers lack of show in the playoffs. Karlsson thrived whereas Ehlers disappeared.

Ehlers is a great player in his own right but perhaps the Jets management would prefer to capitalize on his remaining value and look at trade options? I certainly think it's possible.

Yeah definitely trade him to the sens please.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Yeah definitely trade him to the sens please.

Won't have to worry about playoff droughts there.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Past performance vs. recency bias

 

[Unspecified]

Its not Karlsson easily or anything remotely close to that. The people that look at the current seasons success of a player and fail to look at them at a whole are the ones wondering why Karlsson is not winning this poll.

 

[bert]

Won't have to worry about playoff droughts there.

Oh hot take hot take! News at 6 the sens suck and the organization is in shambles next story water is wet.

Did that feel good? Imagine how good it will feel when your boys in blue win a playoff series. We're you alive the last time that happened or old enough to remember?