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I don't know why you'd think they'd adopt the Nordic model when America hasn't adopted the Nordic model in anything else. Before long this industry will simply be dominated by a few massive private players i.e. more along the UK model.

New Jersey sued for this because they tricked themselves into thinking that Vegas having an unfair edge on sports betting is the cause of their tawdry coastal 'resort' towns like Atlantic City declining while Vegas prospers. Now New Jersey also happens to be the state of the union where "gambling interests" (*cue for Sopranos music*) have the biggest political muscle outside Nevada, so yeah that probably also played a role here.

Now in the UK, actual gambling parlors have been in decline for a while..online gambling is what it's all about. And it's gonna be the same in the U.S. obviously. States and communities will profit about as much from this as they profit from online retailers. Those online gambling providers will be Delaware corporations and if they have a physical presence anywhere in the U.S. to begin with, I would imagine that Vegas is as good as any place for it.
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Well it seems Nevada already has a similar system. Since many states are in the planning process only or have not even begun one, one would think they'd look toward copying existing systems.

If the federal government is smart about this, they'd allow only states to organize the systems and limit playing only to one's home state, thus allowing for the Nevada (or Nordic) model. It would reduce federal spendinga a lot if states could get funds for various social projects from sports betting instead of the government. But since I realize what type of people are running the government now, I don't have high hopes for it. :laugh:
 
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Can't recall where I saw/read it, but LV mayor's response was along the lines that Vegas is (now) more of a party (and where wouldn't you want to place bet?)
 
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I am pretty sure all 32 teams will apply for Gambling licenses and each arena will have a casino. revenue streams will increase for all teams
 
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Maybe asked and answered in this thread, but hasn't Canada had sports betting since the dawn of time?
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Yes, however lottery in Canada is provincially owned and regulated. A team cannot simply start a casino. Ontario used to have a specific NHL Lotto game. Seems once the licensing deal with NHL expired recently the game was killed.

In Quebec you can bet on NHL teams or individual players -> https://miseojeu.lotoquebec.com/en/betting-offer?idAct=2

Not sure how the licensing works.
 
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Speaking of betting ....

Given that this ruling brings betting out of the closet so to speak and will make it mainstream... do people feel that for the NHL to be a real legit sport to bet on, that things like what the player's actual injury is will have to be disclosed ( ie: no more it's upper body or lower body ) or that whether a player is in the lineup or not may have to be disclosed earlier and not be a "game time decision" ?

If you are dropping a lot of money on the outcome of the game, you might want to have time to make your bet depending upon a certain player being in the lineup or not... and a game time decision may not cut it.
 
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cbcwpg said:
Speaking of betting ....

Given that this ruling brings betting out of the closet so to speak and will make it mainstream... do people feel that for the NHL to be a real legit sport to bet on, that things like what the player's actual injury is will have to be disclosed ( ie: no more it's upper body or lower body ) or that whether a player is in the lineup or not may have to be disclosed earlier and not be a "game time decision" ?

If you are dropping a lot of money on the outcome of the game, you might want to have time to make your bet depending upon a certain player being in the lineup or not... and a game time decision may not cut it.
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Ive seen this come up, and the answers arent concrete. Feels like maybe 60% think the NHL will have to adopt their standards.
 
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cbcwpg said:
Speaking of betting ....

Given that this ruling brings betting out of the closet so to speak and will make it mainstream... do people feel that for the NHL to be a real legit sport to bet on, that things like what the player's actual injury is will have to be disclosed ( ie: no more it's upper body or lower body ) or that whether a player is in the lineup or not may have to be disclosed earlier and not be a "game time decision" ?

If you are dropping a lot of money on the outcome of the game, you might want to have time to make your bet depending upon a certain player being in the lineup or not... and a game time decision may not cut it.
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What are the injury reporting requirements for the NBA and MLB?
 
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I don't see why the NHL would have to adopt injury-reporting standards to facilitate gambling, unless some sort of laws were passed in the relevant states saying as much.
 
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cbcwpg said:
Speaking of betting ....

Given that this ruling brings betting out of the closet so to speak and will make it mainstream... do people feel that for the NHL to be a real legit sport to bet on, that things like what the player's actual injury is will have to be disclosed ( ie: no more it's upper body or lower body ) or that whether a player is in the lineup or not may have to be disclosed earlier and not be a "game time decision" ?

If you are dropping a lot of money on the outcome of the game, you might want to have time to make your bet depending upon a certain player being in the lineup or not... and a game time decision may not cut it.
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Not required in Canada, in fact Loto Quebec opened betting last season on Carey Price return from injury. Among odds 35-1 he would never play again.
 
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Duhatschek Notebook: On changes to NHL injury reports,...

Duhatschek with some speculation on injury reporting
In an era where NHL injuries are indistinctly referred to as “upper” or “lower” body, what a lot of hockey fans may not know or remember is that, once upon a time, the NHL did release a weekly list of player injuries, which was far more specific. The injury report would be issued Tuesdays, which is also when weekly printed statistic reports were made available (believe it or not, grasshopper, there was a time when that information was not available, online, 24/7, the way it is now).

Just how the NHL might amend its injury reporting policy is nebulous, because it involves privacy issues, and medical records and/or conditions that individual players may not want shared publicly. That would be the counter argument to full disclosure, which theoretically is what the NFL does in its weekly injury report – and in the NHL’s case, would ultimately require the input of the NHL Players’ Association.

But the discussion, back and forth, also reminded me of how sensitive some players can be to injury disclosure, and why the league eventually went from very specific to the vague generalities they use now.
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Definitely are area that the NHL and NHLPA will have to come to a consensus.
 
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Being reported Delaware Park will be taking single game bets starting next week. They were one of states was ready to go out of the gate. I dont think they are paying an integrity fee to the leagues.
 
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Vegas Golden Knights Lead Nevada Sports Betting Surge In April

Vegas Golden Knights fever extends well beyond the walls of T-Mobile Arena — bettors are swept up in it too.

Nevada sportsbooks enjoyed a robust April with nearly $316 million in handle. That follows consecutive years of flat handle in April, a month featuring only The Masters as a major sports betting event. April produced $287 million in handle last year and $292 million in 2016.

Finding the primary reason requires little effort. One needs only to look inside the nebulous “other” category in the Nevada Gaming Control Board’s revenue report.
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Nevada breaks out sport-specific revenue for football, baseball, and basketball. Sports including hockey, golf, and auto racing historically do not produce enough handle to warrant separate mention.

“Other” experienced a 54 percent increase year-over-year in April from $39.3 million last year to $60.3 million in 2018. Give the credit to hockey and its popularity boom in Las Vegas.
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Sounds like Vegas' sports books are doing just fine.
 
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