why was Julien Ellis drafted so late?

[Johnny Danger]

the Q has brought some fine goalies into the NHL in the last years.

Brodeur, Denis, Giguere, Theodore, Lalime, Biron, Luongo, ...

but in the Entry Draft 2004, the 1st Q-goalie picked was Jason Churchill at the end of rnd 4!

and why has Julien Ellis been drafted that late, when the Q is known for producing fine goalies? ...

or Martin Houle in rnd 8 ...?

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[LaLaLaprise]

Because he is only 6'00 tall

 

[Johnny Danger]

ellis is 6-0

Denis: 6-0
Brodeur: 6-1
Giguere: 6-0
Biron: 6-1
Theodore: 5-11

 

[BAuldie]

Mainly because he had 1 bad showing at the Top Prospects game.. that dropped him. Oh well.. As a canucks fan i'm not complaining

 

[Johnny Danger]

to what rnd was he predicted?

 

[Guig]

to what rnd was he predicted?

3rd-4th if I remember correctly

 

[Reign Nateo]

Just one of those mediocre sized prospects who had a bad showing in one prospects game. He looks to be a steal, but is anything but a blue-chipper at this point.

 

[kmad]

3rd-4th if I remember correctly

His agent told him he'd go in the first two rounds, and he cried when he didn't

 

[Johnny Danger]

He looks to be a steal, but is anything but a blue-chipper at this point.

i didn't call him a blue chipper

 

[bopeep]

His agent told him he'd go in the first two rounds, and he cried when he didn't

Sounds like a wuss

 

[sunb]

Sounds like a wuss

I think when Vancouver took him in the 6th round, no one knew where he was. Apparently he was crying, alone, in the the bathroom. It was pretty bad as he was considered a lock for the top 4 rounds and was one of the top 5 goalies of the draft (usually all taken in the 1st or 2nd rounds). So he was crying as this may have a negative effect on his future.

 

[Tb0ne]

Cry or no cry we still got one of the best goalies in the draft.

The fact he did cry hasn't seemed to have hurt him at all. . . . . . .

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

*shrugs* Drafts are nervous times for all players, and when you go something like a 100 or so picks after where you're projected to go, that can weigh on you. I don't blame Ellis for being upset.

As a Canuck fan though, I'm sure not complaining. He's looking like a steal at this point.

~Canucklehead~

 

[Russian_fanatic]

the Q has brought some fine goalies into the NHL in the last years.

Brodeur, Denis, Giguere, Theodore, Lalime, Biron, Luongo, ...

but in the Entry Draft 2004, the 1st Q-goalie picked was Jason Churchill at the end of rnd 4!

and why has Julien Ellis been drafted that late, when the Q is known for producing fine goalies? ...

or Martin Houle in rnd 8 ...?

Jullien Ellis is a fine goalie prospect, but the reason he fell was because he had a poor prospect game, and that was where most prospect saw him play. That being said before that people where rating him ahead of Dubnyk, and Cory Schneider and was considered the third best goalie in the draft.Expect him to get invited to the team Canada camp next year, and watch him make a splash.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Jullien Ellis is a fine goalie prospect, but the reason he fell was because he had a poor prospect game, and that was where most prospect saw him play. That being said before that people where rating him ahead of Dubnyk, and Cory Schneider and was considered the third best goalie in the draft.Expect him to get invited to the team Canada camp next year, and watch him make a splash.

He fell for more reasons then that. If you think 30 teams would pass on a goaltender numorous time because of one bad game then you are greatly mistaken. LaLaLaPrise hit it on the head. He is only a generous 6 feet on paper and scouts seem to like a goaltender that is big and covers the net. It is the same reason Houle dropped so far.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Isn't Marek Schwarz, like, 5'11? I don't think the height was a big factor.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

Isn't Marek Schwarz, like, 5'11? I don't think the height was a big factor.

You did see Schwarz quickness at the WJC? Thats why he was first round....you can't teach that sort of quickness or reaction.

 

[Form and Substance]

Whatever, we frickin' drafted Loic Lacasse instead of Ellis, that still pisses me off! The ******* stood on his head for the Cataracts on most nights.

 

[CH Wizard]

He fell for more reasons then that. If you think 30 teams would pass on a goaltender numorous time because of one bad game then you are greatly mistaken. LaLaLaPrise hit it on the head. He is only a generous 6 feet on paper and scouts seem to like a goaltender that is big and covers the net. It is the same reason Houle dropped so far.

Theodore is smaller.I didn't see Julien-Ellis Plante play often.He was a decent goalie , his quickness wasn't bad.His lateral moves weren't slow.I know , he isn't that big but Lacasse has been picked before him.Lacasse hasn't the potential to become a N#1 goalie.I see some great potential in Plante.So it was a steal to my eyes.Lacasse is playing in a pretty weak team though.He isn't well positioning him in front of the net , he's lost.

 

[Blackshad]

Iv seen him about 30 times for the last 2 years.
He is damn good... He seem to like to steal games..
he is one of the reason of the success of the Cataractes this year. They have a very young team with many recruits producing.... even the coach wouldnt have predicted the success they have this year. Next year will be the Big one for this team

 

[Chaos Giraffe]

One of top goaltenders in the Q right now. Even if he only turns out to be a backup goalie in the NHL (Lets just consider his potential to be that of a poor man's Manny Legace), I'd be more than thrilled. 6th round........usually the "Take whatever you can, and be happy" rounds.

 

[ChemiseBleuHonnete]

Ellis cried because he's been drafted after Lacasse. Lacasse isn't at the same level that Ellis is and Lacasse used to be Ellis' back-up. Also, Lacasse was drafted by the habs, I can't imagine how painful it must be for Ellis. If I were Bob Gainey, I'd personally apologize to Ellis.

 

[Johnny Danger]

but ellis has to deal with this

i hope he finds his way

 

[Jamie]

I think when Vancouver took him in the 6th round, no one knew where he was. Apparently he was crying, alone, in the the bathroom. It was pretty bad as he was considered a lock for the top 4 rounds and was one of the top 5 goalies of the draft (usually all taken in the 1st or 2nd rounds). So he was crying as this may have a negative effect on his future.

I thought the players weren't there for the 2nd day of drafting?

 

[Doomsday Device]

I thought the players weren't there for the 2nd day of drafting?

I think they can be there, but a lot of players leave after not getting selected where they thought they would.