Why retooling is the best option for the Habs

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  1. Phozzwald

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    Meanwhile, the rest of us would rather gouge our eyes out with a rusty spoon than watch another game without a goal

    Excited to see Juulsen though
     
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    Well this is a bad article.
     
  4. The Great Schlemko

    The Great Schlemko "The Food Will Be Better"

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    -No centers
    -No elite players up front
    -Best players are past their prime
    -Brutal contracts everywhere
    -No prospects that will help us
    -Appalling drafting and developpment
    -Worst philosophy for building a team
    -Excuses instead of solutions
    -Let go/trade people that we shouldn't
    -Fail to maximize our assets every single time

    It's pretty ****ing bad.
     
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    I'm relaxed. Can't say that same for Bergevin...
     
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    I think presently it is as bad as it seems. There are a couple bright spots on the horizon though and nowhere to go but up.
     
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    That's a terrible "article". It was probably written so they could get on the Habs payroll like Brian Wilde, Grant McCagg, Renaud Lavoie, etc etc.
     
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    "Relax Hab fans", I have a clickbait link for you. :sarcasm:
     
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    Last Word On Sports is basically Cegep level journalism and should not be taken seriously.
     
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    The only thing I took from that article was “one mans trash is another mans treasure.” I wouldn’t be surprised if Bergevin had that tattooed on his chest. The rest of the article just comes across as overhyping certain aspects to make things seem more positive.
     
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    The only way this is a "last word on sports"

    Is if it's one of those situations when you're talking sports with someone and they demonstrate such a severe lack of understanding of the game, that you walk away because you can't quite find the words to reply to their nonsense.
     
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    Operative cliches:

    I don't think we've hit the bottom of the barrel yet.

    It's gotta get worse before it gets better.

    Simple reason -- we're only a few months removed from a ton of Habs' disaster decisions. And the same individuals who have prompted those decisions are still in place. No performance reviews, no restructuring, no new talent added to management.

    And yes, I'm fully aware that management talent isn't available in-season and how Bergevin's next boss is working for another club right now. Hence, we're not yet at the point of "nowhere to go but up" since for that to happen, we'd have to have different people making critical decisions and right now, we don't have them.

    I don't think Molson's done admiring his triceps-rotops alpha male, so he's not likely to get fired. But, Geoff may want to domesticate him by having him report to a sharper hockey mind.
     
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    We are three huge trades (which we need to win) and 3 excellent draft years away from being contenders.

    Huge trade #1 is Patches, so I"ll wait and see.
     
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    oh its bad, the only human that can see it being not so bad, is one that got used to mediocrity and think that one notch above this is not so bad
     
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    when is the sky not falling on Habs fans?

    Though in this case, it's really not a good time to be a Habs fan
     
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    Yes we have to panic.

    1- Weber is already slowing down and he is locked up longterm. How is he going to be after his foot surgery?

    2- Price.. is it just a rough patch or the beginning of a downfall. He is locked for 8 more years at a ridiculous cap hit.

    3- Alzner. 4 more years.

    4- Where is the defense? I don't see any top defenseman ready to take the charge in the next foreseeable future. Mete is good but he does not have the shot. Juulsen is fine but more of a bottom pairing guy.. The rest are all question marks.

    5- The center position. I could just stop there regarding this as it has been debated to death. I will simply mention that you better hope Poehling turn out as a stud because after him it's basicaly inexistent.

    6- Leadership/Character. This team is supposed to be at the pinacle of leadership and character as per the lord himself. The character is the most useless/archaic view since Burke troculence team building.

    7- Country club feeling all over the place. Promotion here and there. Nobody is ever accountable and the management is basically full of yes man with no vision.
     
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    It’s worse. All but two prospects suck. No centres. Two top 4 defencemen. Goalie paid a ridiculous amount.
     
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    • No first pairing PMD.
    • Bad asset mix.
    • Players forced to play in unnatural positions.
    • No one getting fired but who is long overdue (Lefebvre, JJD, etc.)
    • Philosophy for building a team: my friends can do no wrong.
    • Complacent and spineless owner who is distracted by non-hockey operations.
    • Poor pro player procurement evaluators -- Eric Crawford and Martin Lapointe have proven nothing. Still here though.
    • Traded away any semblance of entertainment when shipped out Subban and not re-signed Radulov.
    • Character and grit over speed, skill and hockey IQ.
    • Intangibles in the room can't be found and yet the GM made that a priority.
    • No primary, nor secondary scoring over several years. Nothing done.
    • A cap team ends up with outrageous amount of cap room in-season.

    Add to that:
    • Idiot fans keep paying for Molson products, are sheep on season tix waiting list.
    • Owner belittles fans: "I have a plan but can't tell you".

    Ownership group is not feeling the kind of heat they should be, fans are making it too easy by continuing to remain captive.
     
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    Molson and Bergevin authored that article
     
  20. The Great Schlemko

    The Great Schlemko "The Food Will Be Better"

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    Philosophy also includes trying to be a middle of the pack team and hope for the best instead of trying to be one of those top teams.
     
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    That article is some heavy rose-coloured glasses. It's basically all assumptions.
     
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    swimmer77 No 2nd guess, grind!

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    I think the season has really enhanced the game day thread's with humor though. So there is that.
     
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    Therrien did the editing from Florida.
     
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    Even if they win the lottery this still isn't a good team. Defenseman take longer than Forwards to develop
     
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