AfroThunder396
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It's also important that when Matthews was a rookie last year, he was 19 and had a year of pro experience playing in the Swiss League. Nico is the youngest player in the NHL and jumped here straight from Halifax.
I will just continually post this until people see it:
That was @ the 15 games mark. Someone posted earlier in the thread an updated one (= @ the 27 games mark) and now Hischier is at 2.73.
This comparison is still kinda silly. You're comparing a 1/3 season from Hischier to full seasons from everyone else (well, 48 games from Yakupov). The sample differences make comparison impossible (and your own post shows how big a jump there was in the small sample between just game 15 and now). I don't know what you expect the informed takeaway to be other than "Hischier is a fantastic young player having a fantastic rookie season, somewhere in the range of other fantastic rookies." Because obviously the immediate conclusion isn't "ZOMG Hischier's better than McDavid."
This comparison is still kinda silly. You're comparing a 1/3 season from Hischier to full seasons from everyone else (well, 48 games from Yakupov). The sample differences make comparison impossible (and your own post shows how big a jump there was in the small sample between just game 15 and now). I don't know what you expect the informed takeaway to be other than "Hischier is a fantastic young player having a fantastic rookie season, somewhere in the range of other fantastic rookies." Because obviously the immediate conclusion isn't "ZOMG Hischier's better than McDavid."
It's also important that when Matthews was a rookie last year, he was 19 and had a year of pro experience playing in the Swiss League. Nico is the youngest player in the NHL and jumped here straight from Halifax.
It's not silly one bit. The thread is titled "Why isn't Nico Hischier being given any spotlight?". That's directly related to how he is doing now.This comparison is still kinda silly. You're comparing a 1/3 season from Hischier to full seasons from everyone else (well, 48 games from Yakupov). The sample differences make comparison impossible (and your own post shows how big a jump there was in the small sample between just game 15 and now). I don't know what you expect the informed takeaway to be other than "Hischier is a fantastic young player having a fantastic rookie season, somewhere in the range of other fantastic rookies." Because obviously the immediate conclusion isn't "ZOMG Hischier's better than McDavid."
Haha even better. That's such an impressive stat it's mind boggling. Does it mean he's better than those other players obviously not. However, considering how there seems to be a desire to not give Nico credit where credit is due, among certain posters, it gives me hope this shuts up some of the ignorant comments being thrown around like mad. You add in the fact that his two way game is superior to every single one of those first overall picks and it just proves how great this kid really is.
Tell me: do you talk the same way you type? As in do you talk before you think about how stupid what you’re about to say might be? Because I have to tell you, I’m not getting the vibe that you’re someone who does a lot of thinking before doing...well, anything?It is true. The islanders have an all world player in Tavares they want to resign. They want to make some noise in the playoffs, they actually most likely NEED to make some noise or Tavares is bye bye. Enter Barzal, he the main anchor point the team is going to use to try and keep Tavares. Barzal knows this therefore every night he is putting the hopes and dreams of an entire fanbase on his back.
Now let's look at the Devils: zero expectations coming into season other than don't finish dead last.
Edit: I am not even sure about that, I think the Devils as an organization would have been ok with dead last, then you get A good chance to redeem this years terrible whiff at 1st overall
I think the Devils as an organization would have been ok with dead last, then you get A good chance to redeem this years terrible whiff at 1st overall
He's going to be better than Draisaitl who your GM just gave an 8.5 mil per year deal.I’ve seen 2, and who I noticed was Hall.
My uneducated opinion is still that while he’s good, he’s definitely not great.
This comparison is still kinda silly. You're comparing a 1/3 season from Hischier to full seasons from everyone else (well, 48 games from Yakupov). The sample differences make comparison impossible (and your own post shows how big a jump there was in the small sample between just game 15 and now). I don't know what you expect the informed takeaway to be other than "Hischier is a fantastic young player having a fantastic rookie season, somewhere in the range of other fantastic rookies." Because obviously the immediate conclusion isn't "ZOMG Hischier's better than McDavid."
Imagine writing an essay about something that has nothing to do at all with the thread because you’re so angry at someone on an internet message board. Yikes.o
Wow I really hope this is sarcasm, if not you should be embarrassed. No one cares about New Jersey? Well who the hell cares about Ontario. No one cares about the leafs outside of Ontario. No cares about the NHL outside the hockey bubble. We follow a niche sport so your elevated view of the leafs as a whole shows how little perspective you have and how you live in a bubble. You and I know you have never been to New Jersey. For your sake I hope you're a kid, cause if your an adult you should be even more embarrassed. Absolutely rediculous.
Also, no one said Hischier is already Datsyuk. There're comparing his style of play. His two way game, his ability to strip people of the puck and his shiftyness. He might not have the dangles that Pavel had, but he's the youngest player in the league who is on pace for over 60 points. Datsyuk wasn't even a full time NHL player until he was 23. As a Devils fan we've seen so many great two way hockey players and I'll speak for the majority of Devils fans when I say, we've never seen a forward so well rounded at such a young age. It's extremely impressive he battles just as hard in the defensive zone as he does in the offensive zone. He could easily be as good as Bergeron or Toews, but what will separate him is his superior skill and hockey sense compared to those two.
Hischier is the real deal and what's funny is he has just as many points through twenty seven games as Auston Matthews did his rookie year. Hischier may never be an elite goal scorer, but he can still be a 25 - 30 goal and 50 - 60 assist guy year in and year out. He's already on pace for 46 assists as the youngest player in the entire NHL. The things he lacks like his shot and strength can always be improved. So stop bad mouthing a great hockey player who will only get better you look so petty and you show your lack of knowledge on the subject.
This doesn't even get into your incredibly ignorant and pathetic comments on the on the state of New Jersey as a whole. You actually sound bitter cause the Devils future is as bright as your precious Leafs. We have the much more superior goalies, starting and back up. We also have a wider variety of very young talent even if the Leafs have the superior younger talent however it's more condensed. Matthews and Reilly are the two best at forward and defense but Nico and Butcher are not far behind. The Devils have larger amount of great hockey players under 22 already in the league.
We also have the better good young players entering their prime, who most are signed for two years or more and under the age of thirty; Hall, Johansson, Palmieri, Vatanen, Severson, Moore and Noesen, Gibbons and Coleman compared to Hyman, Brown, Gardener, JVR, Kadri, Martin and Zaitsev.
Devils have a younger group of veterans and a much younger team as whole. Only 5 non goalies being over the age of 30 with two of them in Lovejoy and Stafford not being on the team past this season.
We're also have as good of a prospect pool if not better and you don't have a prospect as good as McCleod. We're most definitely set up better cap space wise going forward. Why do I bring up all these subjects compareing the Devils to the Leafs? It's because you Leafs fans go around trying to bring down the players and organizations of other teams so you can feel better about what you have. You even resorted to bad mouthing the entire state of New Jersey which you know nothing about. An element of your fanbase is so pathetic it's lauagblw . Its posters like you who give your entire fanbase, who have many great posters a bad wrap.
The future of the east is the Leafs, Devils, Blue Jackets and Islanders in my opinion and I hope this year we play you guys in the playoffs. You have good team and will for a long time but stop disrespecting players, organizations and entire states/provinces. Grow up and maybe you Leafs fans will start getting respect around here. Boy.
He just isn’t THAT great for a 1st OA
Imagine being so proud of yourself for thinking you upset someone on an internet message board. Yikes, real sad thing to get excited about.Imagine writing an essay about something that has nothing to do at all with the thread because you’re so angry at someone on an internet message board. Yikes.
I mentioned this like 200 posts ago, but I'm glad someone else brought this up.
Barzal has Taveres going against top competition whereas Nico is consistently going up against the best night in and night out AND producing as the youngest player in the league, which is nothing short of impressive.
No one is upset, you're just wrong. People type out long responses to your long post so other people don't buy into what you're selling.Imagine writing an essay about something that has nothing to do at all with the thread because you’re so angry at someone on an internet message board. Yikes.
No one is upset, you're just wrong. People type out long responses to your long post so other people don't buy into what you're selling.
Imagine writing an essay about something that has nothing to do at all with the thread because you’re so angry at someone on an internet message board. Yikes.
@CanCHI is just mad because the Hawks are paying Toews 9 million a year to back check, so he's trying to discredit any defensive abilities Nico has.
He's on pace for 6o plus points as the youngest player in the league. You also don't realize that his two way game is just outstanding, possibly the best two way game as an 18 year old since Bergeron. Plus he as has more skill and hockey sense than Bergeron ever had. He's already a first line center on a first place team playing in what's most likely the best division in hockey. He's also not just a passenger he driving the play along with Hall, while also missing Palmieri our first line right winger. Also anyone who thinks Bratt is better is high off their ass, even if he's a elite young player in his own right. Same goes for Butcher. Nico has tangibles that cannot be teacher.
He was a very impressive prospect as well. It was his first year in North America and the Halifax coaches consistently said he wa farther along and more well rounded than Mackinnon, Drouin and Meier. That Halifax team was supposed to be terrible last year and not make the playoffs. His points per game were as good if not better than those three until he injured his wrist the last 6 weeks of the season.
The scouts got one thing right the 2017 draft was and is subpar as a whole. However they made one glaring mistake and that was underestimating Nico Hischier. The fact Nolan Patrick was even in the same tier as Nico during draft time is gonna be looked baxk upon in a humorous way.
P/60 for the most recent 1oa picks in their rookie season:
1. McDavid - 2.69
2. HISCHIER - 2.29
3. Kane - 2.26
4. Yakupov- 2.14
5. Matthews - 2.12
6. Mackinnon - 2.07
7. RNH- 1.95
8. Hall - 1.51
9. Tavares - 1.32