Twine Seeking Missle
Go monkey go!!!
The NHLPA rejected the "last" offer by the owners today. Why have the two sides meet again tomorrow with bettman and goodenow? This seems like a big waste of time. Just put us out of our misery already.
cancel the season and screw them!Twine Seeking Missle said:The NHLPA rejected the "last" offer by the owners today. Why have the two sides meet again tomorrow with bettman and goodenow? This seems like a big waste of time. Just put us out of our misery already.
barnburner said:Lock them in a room together with nobody else in there, and let them
have a free-for-all. The one left standing winds the negotiations.
Chinook said:I know that few of you think it'll happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if the deal is signed tomorrow.
Twine Seeking Missle said:I like the optimism but what is that based on?
Chinook said:It's based off of all the things we've heard over the past month - Anaheim and Phoenix ordering equipment, Mark Madden reporting back on Monday that there would be an 80% chance that a deal would be signed on Thursday (yes, he's a credible source when it comes to hockey matters), the NHL and PA consistantly trying to fool the media and others that would disrupt meetings. The kicker, though, is that even though the PA 'refuses' to accept a hard cap and the NHL 'refuses' to back down from their stance, and although they continually make statements that say 'no progress, big philosophy differences, no further meetings scheduled', they continue to meet anyway as if the season could be saved. Finally, Bettman and Goodenow tomorrow... assuming that everything above is correct, the two coming together could only result in good things.
Chinook said:I know that few of you think it'll happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if the deal is signed tomorrow.
Twine Seeking Missle said:The NHLPA rejected the "last" offer by the owners today. Why have the two sides meet again tomorrow with bettman and goodenow? This seems like a big waste of time. Just put us out of our misery already.
I in the Eye said:IMO, not tomorrow... but the day after
I think that tomorrow will be the most depressing yet for us hockey fans - as both Goodenow and Bettman will be sporting their best and most convincing poker faces during the final hours... Doom will not only be reported, but also appear to be reality, IMO...
But as soon as there seems to be absolutely no hope, IMHO Bettman is going to replace the 'hard cap' portion of the NHL's proposal with a strict luxury tax/soft cap...
This is the secret door out of this whole negotiation trap that allows both sides to save face, IMO...
The NHL's latest offer likely includes elements already negotiated between the two sides (thus all the meetings)... IMO, it's basically just the hard cap component that needs to be worked out (and corresponding free agency consolation prize)- and thus, the meeting with Bettman and Goodenow to fight and determine what it will be replaced with...
I don't think that either side will walk away now... IMO, both sides realize that the other is prepared to leave the season behind - and the threat of this has likely done it's job in getting a form of cost certainty (although not as strict as a hard cap) in place... To follow through is now counter-productive and unnecessary, IMO...
Greschner4 said:The hardness of the cap is alleviated by the profit sharing component. That's what should allow everyone to save face.
Comparatively, are we as fans "whipped"?Brodeur said:Probably for the same reason I talk to my ex-girlfriends. Most likely nothing good will happen, but you like to hold out hope.