Why did Hall flourish with Draisaitl but not with McDavid?

[ElfanuReinhard*]

Well yeah the title explains my question.

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[Gloss233]

They played together for like 10 games tops, and that was the first 10 games of McDavids career. How is this even a question you're asking yourself.

 

[HeavyHitter99]

They played together for like 10 games tops, and that was the first 10 games of McDavids career. How is this even a question you're asking yourself.

It wasn't even close to that long more like 4 games. Then Mcdavid dominated with Yak for a slightly greater amount of games and then Mcdavid got injured at what game 11 of the season?

This shouldn't be a thread, 5 or less games is probably too small of a sample size.

 

[lakai17]

Timing.

Hall was going to unleash with any center you toss him at that time.

 

[Del Preston]

They played together for like 10 games tops, and that was the first 10 games of McDavids career. How is this even a question you're asking yourself.

Settle down. OP isn't an Oilers fan, that's why he asked.

 

[Supermassive]

Why did Hall flourish?

Hall.

 

[Gloss233]

Settle down. OP isn't an Oilers fan, that's why he asked.

Im not trying to be rude or anything , im just hoping they have another chance together.

 

[TheNumber4]

Besides the aformentioned fact that they only played like 4 games together and McDavid just started in the league. Hall is also a notorious slow starter. So there's three possible reasons.

One other reason kicking around the Oilers' boards is that Hall likes to carry the puck and so does McDavid. Two drivers' of their own lines might make for difficult chemistry. But again, small sample size.

 

[snipes]

I want to see the Oilers try Hall on his off-side at RW as 97s triggerman.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

They played together for like 10 games tops, and that was the first 10 games of McDavids career. How is this even a question you're asking yourself.

They had 74:50 even strength minutes together total on the season, given that there is going to be some natural overlap just from partial line changes and occasional late game line blender tactics that's more like 4 games worth of them being purposefully matched together.

Better question is can Draisaitl produce like a top 6 forward without Hall next to him.

 

[McTedi]

I want to see the Oilers try Hall on his off-side at RW as 97s triggerman.

Yes to that and Hall needs to defer to McD to drive that line and distribute the puck. I think Hall and McDavid could very dangerous together and it would allow the Oilers to reunite RNH, Ebs and Pou who had chemistry way back when. Then the question becomes who do you play with Hall and McD, Maroon definitely showed he belongs in the top six but so did Drai as well.

 

[booyakasha]

Well yeah the title explains my question.

They never really got a chance to play together, I only remember them getting 2 games together...

 

[voxel]

Better question is can Draisaitl produce like a top 6 forward without Hall next to him.

I think so.

Draisaitl's hockey sense is being underrated in this thread. His play did fall off during the time of his illness (see that nagging cough in his interviews) and he's not overly effective on the PP except to help carry the puck in.

 

[Halibut]

Yes to that and Hall needs to defer to McD to drive that line and distribute the puck. I think Hall and McDavid could very dangerous together and it would allow the Oilers to reunite RNH, Ebs and Pou who had chemistry way back when. Then the question becomes who do you play with Hall and McD, Maroon definitely showed he belongs in the top six but so did Drai as well.

I think this is the big thing. Hall is used to being the driver on his team let alone line and with McDavid things are different. He needed to play differently when with McDavid then he ever has before. there is a learning curve he's had to go through.

 

[McDrai]

Hall and McDavid are drivers in the sense that they like to push the pace and want possession of the puck at all times. Draisaitl is more of a complimentary player who likes to dish off to other players on his line and doesn't like to have possession of the puck for very long. At least that's what I've noticed

 

[McspOiler]

Hall had one of the lowest scoring seasons of his career ppg wise... Don't know if I'd say the flourished. That being said when mcdavid is on the ice he should transition the puck l. Halls ability makes him a very good transition player as well. Mcdavid requires a sniper and a retriever on his lone. You could argue hall is good at retrieved but I would say drai did that on their line.

Tldr hall and mcdavid overlap in skill set and mcdavid is better so hall having the puck makes the line seem less effective.

 

[oilinblood]

Hall had one of the lowest scoring seasons of his career ppg wise... Don't know if I'd say the flourished. That being said when mcdavid is on the ice he should transition the puck l. Halls ability makes him a very good transition player as well. Mcdavid requires a sniper and a retriever on his lone. You could argue hall is good at retrieved but I would say drai did that on their line.

Tldr hall and mcdavid overlap in skill set and mcdavid is better so hall having the puck makes the line seem less effective.

Drais is definitely the guy retrieving pucks. Did well with Poo and RNh. Did well with everyone. Slick. Slick. Slick,

 

[voxel]

Draisaitl is good at retrieving pucks, good on the dot, great at carrying the puck out of the d-zone and into the o-zone, great at shielding the pucks along he boards. His negatives are - doesn't like to shoot, not accurate sniper, slow first step, not physical consistently, questionable fitness.

 

[oilinblood]

Draisaitl is good at retrieving pucks, good on the dot, great at carrying the puck out of the d-zone and into the o-zone, great at shielding the pucks along he boards. His negatives are - doesn't like to shoot, not accurate sniper, slow first step, not physical consistently, questionable fitness.

questionable fitness? you mean like how Toewslite Larkin died after about 40 games? First step improved considerably enough that if i had the videos this year i can definitely show his first step and gear on turnovers where he gets enough speed to counter effectively (which is what that first step is needed for). his top end speed is nhl speed. No problems leading Hall to the line. no problems keeping up.

82 game fitness comes eventually for all these prospects. first full nhl season. went better than i would have ever imagined. best player on the ice in McDs absence MANY MANY nights