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So do Aki Berg, Cory Cross, and Alexei Semenov.Teemu08 said:Anton Babchuk just has a Helluva shot.
So do Aki Berg, Cory Cross, and Alexei Semenov.Teemu08 said:Anton Babchuk just has a Helluva shot.
John-Michael Liles needs to get some love here though.triggrman said:How do you figure he's doing better? He's 2 years older and has 2 less points. I see he's started the season in the AHL but he also gets the benefit of playing on the top powerplay line and leads all of the Oilers defensemen on powerplay time per game with 3:56 minutes per game. He has half of his goals and one third of his points from the powerplay. Hamhuis on the other hand has 10 even strength points, he has Zidlicky and Timonen in front of him on powerplay depth charts both who average over 6 minutes a game powerplay time, in fact Hamhuis gets less than half the powerplay time per game than Bergeron and his total powerplay time this season is 86:26 compared to Bergeron with a total of 118:00. Now if Bergeron was in the same boat as Hamhuis, do you think his numbers would still be as good? I don't, as there is no way Bergeron would get near the time on the powerplay as Zidlicky and Timonen would still be ahead of him on the powerplay.
#37-#93-#27 said:Easily Jay Bouwmeester or Joni Pitkanen the rest are below a considerable gap.
Of the young defensemen, I like Liles, Hamhuis, Pitkanen and Leopold, based on offense alone, in no paticular order.triggrman said:Bouwmeester has 2 goals this season.
#37-#93-#27 said:Easily Jay Bouwmeester or Joni Pitkanen the rest are below a considerable gap.
triggrman said:Bouwmeester has 2 goals this season.
Ok flip that, Bouwmeester has two more points than Hamhuis, despite being his teams top powerplay pointman. Hamhuis has more even strength goals and assist.luongofan said:Well, let's see. Bouwmeester is playing on the 7th worst offensive team in the league. Pitkanen has 2 more points playing on the 7th best offensive team.
I fail to see where there is a big difference.
Caniacforever said:I've heard a lot of people who are really in the know say that Richmond looks a lot like David Tanabe did a few years back before he hit the NHL and had some of his deficiencies exposed. He just won a gold medal at the WJC's. Has anybody gotten an extended look at him?
Oiltalk said:Surprised Marc-Andre Bergeron isn't on the list. He is doing better than Hamhuis.
Because Koltsov is a purely offensive defenseman, where the others are two way players.DutchLeafsfan said:Pardon me if I sound ignorant, but what exactly has Kirill Koltsov done to be considered ahead of for instance Carlo Colaiacovo, Ryan Suter, Dan Hamhuis. If we for instance compare Colaiacovo with Koltsov, both were drafted in the same year with Carlo being drafted higher, Colaiacovo had an impressive WJC were he was tied for the lead in scoring, made the Leafs for a few games out of training camp last year and has outscored Koltsov 20 points to 16 while playing 6 games less (PPG is 0.56 vs 0.38). Moreover Carlo doesn't have the motivational issues Koltsov appears to have. On top of this Colaiacovo has made the AHL All-Star team in his rookie year, which Koltsov has failed to do...
go pierre hedin said:Because Koltsov is a purely offensive defenseman, where the others are two way players.
I know, but this is a thread asking who's the top OFFENSIVE defenseman.DutchLeafsfan said:Still, Koltsov has yet to outscore Colaiacovo in any competition in which both play...