Who replaces Cooper?

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  1. CupsOverCash

    CupsOverCash Registered User

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    Ill give Coop another year because there really is nobody available who is better. I dont like AV personally. I wouldnt mind possibly bringing up our Syracuse coach late in the year like Pittsburgh did with Sullivan and we did with Coop. Sometimes these things jump start a team. Especially if we bring up a couple of those young players. If we have another February like we did, maybe we move on? Im just not quite there yet because of what else is out there.
     
  2. Todd1a

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    team is going to come out flat with cooper next year and we will be playing catch up in February like 2017 season. I agree I don't like the coaches a lot out there but really who was mike sullivan before the penguins made that change? pretty much a nobody. I just think after like 5 years a team needs a change with a coach it's not normal to keep a coach 6-8 years unless your scotty bowman which cooper is not.
     
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    " scotty bowman which Cooper is not". The understatement of the year
     
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    Yea I wouldnt be surprised if we started out slow this year. We need to find a way to even out the seasons efforts. We put it all towards the beginning and that was nice and all but what about the next half? I know we got 82 games plus playoffs but we need to be way more consistent than we are. We were playing consistently well in the first half and then for the first 10 games of the playoffs but after that no life. A more consistent Lightning team means bad things for the rest of the league. Hopefully we get to that point.
     
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    When the best possible coach for this team was available we didn't get him so... If Cooper had that LV roster, they wouldn't make the playoffs and the apologists would be excusing him because of a "weak roster."

    Gallant making the playoffs alone this year let alone atop the West, just shows how much better a coach he is. He didn't have a Kucherov, Hedman, Stralman, Drouin like Cooper had last year and still couldn't make the playoffs.
     
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    that was a big mistake florida firing gallant! didnt yzerman and gallant play togther?
     
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    It just wasn't our time.
     
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    I second that it just wasn’t our time
     
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    What the **** does that even mean? He is just admitting that he can’t get his team amped up enough to play. It’s whoever is playing better hockey’s time.
     
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    "You've been at this longer then we have, here - just take the win."
     
  11. Todd1a

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    making a excuse to keep on keeping his Job as long as he can
     
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    It sure looked like it was our time the way we played Boston. It looked like Boston was our Stanley Cup when everyone was saying Caps had their Stanley Cup beating the Pens. I kind of know what Cooper means when he says that it wasnt our time. I just dont like it coming from the HC. He needs to take more of the responsibility. Even if it wasnt his fault. HC always is the leader when things go wrong. This should piss off our guys to no end and then you hear about some guys not hurt when they certainly are playing like it. I wouldnt be surprised if our guys tune out coop this year. We have been too close 3 times. Eventually players need a kick in their ass and I dont think Coop does.
     
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    That wasn't the full quote. It was something about how we had so many chances in game 7 that didn't go in, and that's why it wasn't our time.
     
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    I just thought it was wrong for a head coach to say that period
     
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    Cooper is the 2nd longest tenured coach in the NHL behind Quennville.

    Next year is Cooper's last year as our head coach unless he wins a Cup. Dude is so gone.
     
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    Why do you think he will be fired I don’t see yzerman firing him he loves cooper too much unless we totally stink and don’t make the playoffs
     
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    Six years with this roster in its prime...get a cup or get gone. His seat is warm now. If you listened to local radio at all last week...I was surprised at multiple callers calling him Dungy 2.0. I was the first person to post that anywhere. It stuck I guess but people are not happy with Cooper.
     
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    I'm not a big fan of Jon Cooper, to be honest.
    But I don't think that Mr. Yzerman will fire him after a ECF Game 7 loss...
     
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    Pretty much, yeah. NHL coaches never get to the Cup-or-Bust point. It's not the same as the NFL.
     
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    The only way I think he would have been fired after this season is if we missed the playoffs again.
     
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    berlin wait...... what?

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    Yzerman?
     
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    Or in soccer. Where, sometimes, the coaches have to win the next game or go home for real.
    Our, sometimes, they've to win a Cup not to be fired.
    I think that Yzerman is not like soccer or football GMs...So I'll be very surprised if, in a month or two, I'll read about a new head coach.
    Btw...the question is: who?
    I cannot see a coach, available, that, for sure, is better than Cooper (and I'm not a big fan of Coop).
    To be honest, the first to be fired is Bowness imho...
     
  23. Todd1a

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    Years later, Lecavalier says the tough love from Tortorella was the best thing to happen to him. Lecavalier said that if he were a GM, he’d hire a coach just like Tortorella.

    As vinny is older now he realizes he needed a coach like torts for those years now !
     
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    ..and who would that be? Do you want to bring back Torts? Mike Keenan?

    I've seen some advocate for Cooper to be fired but I've seen very few suggestions who we should bring in instead. Horrible suggestions like AV and then Sheldon Keefe as pretty much the only other option that could be of interest but from what read he is more a Cooper coach than a Torts kind of coach.
     
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