Who replaces Cooper?

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  1. Hit The Lights

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    Not a fan of this quote at all.
     
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    Well that just rustles my jimmies.

    I mean like, that **** REALLY rubs me the wrong way. I remember listening to part of his presser after the game and not liking his attitude and tone of voice. He sounded like we were supposed to win just because.
    I know I joke about bringing torts back but I really think that what this team needs is some tough love.



    I would be shocked if Cooper has ever shown this type of emotion in a locker room.

    I don't remember who said it but I think they were right when they said Cooper is more concerned about getting invited to the players weddings then telling them what they need to hear. Or something along those lines.
     
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  3. Stammertime91

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    Lol Callahan sitting there was funny
     
  4. Todd1a

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    That’s my favorite torts video. Torts would never be able to work with yzerman or vinik ! Literally torts would be upstairs in there office every day getting warnings from them
     
  5. Todd1a

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    Best option is
    Alain Vigneault
     
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    Torts's shelf life is so short these days that I'm not sure if he'll ever have a successful run again. I was pulling for him last year, but it seems like nobody's willing to put up with him for too long anymore.

    People seem to think intensity is all about yelling and screaming and throwing **** at doors and overturning tables. It's not. A lot of the most intense players/coaches ever were pretty quiet.
     
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    Yep his life has already expired with the blue jackets in my opinion. A team can only put up with torts for three years until they need to get rid of him or change over a ton of new players.
     
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    If the Blackhawks miss the playoffs again this season then Quenneville gets fired and that’s the guy we should be all over in getting we have the players for his system
     
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    It actually wouldn't be shocking to see us swap coaches if the Blackhawks miss and we get bounced early.
     
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    The meme is that the players will take on their coach's personality. Coop seems like a nice guy, and after all this time, I have a hard time imagining him acting like a dick. However coaches need to be dickish sometimes.
     
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    I think Coop gets one more year with his team and if we dont do it next year we make some big changes.
     
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    Apparently Cooper missed the pregame show this postseason. "Our Ice! Our Time!"
     
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    There is a belief that you can't yell at players now. Not individually maybe, but as a group like Torts did in the above video? Probably fine. The guys who need it will take something from it, and the guys who don't need it will know that the coach sees it.

    I don't think you can demean a player, especially in front of others, without risking they shut down.

    The infamous Gabby 'f-bomb' motivational speech from 24/7 also hits these points.
     
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    Fingers crossed that we can give Sheldon Keefe an assistant job to replace Bowness. Hes arguably the best coaching prospect out there and can replace Cooper from within. I'm not enamored with Ben Groulx
     
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    lol if tortorello did that infront of me id laugh so hard and id say
    "sit down kid"
     
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    The right answer is:

    NOBODY.
     
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    I agree, **** coaches.
     
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    I feel like that might be more realistic. Not that Sheldon Keefe would take an assistant's job (it feels like he's been in line for an HC job forever), but that we might start actively grooming Coop's replacement, if we're not already, sort of like we did with Coop/Boucher.
     
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    It's hard not to feel that way. This was a successful season but to me it feels in the same sense that you scored just low enough on your test to miss an "A" by a point. I share your sentiment that Cooper's job is not in danger for now, but all the same I'm keeping a keen eye on who we hire (if anyone) on the coaching staff. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the guy we want is under our nose the whole time in Todd Richards. In any case I think Yzerman will be prepared for the worst and will hope for the best. Historically he has always been prepared.

    I have to imagine he would pull the trigger and fire Cooper for missing the playoffs all together or if we started with a bad record. I don't mean that as in fans are supremely ticked because we're dropping games we shouldn't and have a record we can play trough because it's a few games under .500 and is not so low that it cannot be mended by a hot streak. I mean something like what happened AV and the NYR and we are a hot mess right out the gate. While I think Yzerman would wait things out and be patient, I can't imagine he'd wait long enough for things to get crazy like 7-19-2. That is a tailpin that only gets that bad if Cooper loses the room.

    As for candidates to replace him we could always try Groulx but if Wolf says he meddles too much and makes too many crazy choices then I'm apprehensive. If this is a guy who will put Killorn and Callahan on a line with Point then I want no part of him. I'll stick with Cooper and bite my tongue while a better replacement is found.
     
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    I've written nobody because I think Yzerman won't fire him.
    So, nobody will replace him cause he'll be our HC during the next season.
     
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    He won't and there is no reason to.
     
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    cooper stinks vegas lit them up last night
     
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    Yeah this is really concerning... just compare the one game Vegas has played against Washington so far to our seven games against them:

    MatchupSOGSOG diff.GFESGPPG
    Vegas34-28+6651
    TB (G1)21-32-11211
    TB (G2)35-37-2202
    TB (G3)23-38-15422
    TB (G4)20-38-18431
    TB (G5)22-30-8330
    TB (G6)24-34-10000
    TB (G7)29-23+6000
    In this one game Vegas has done what we have managed just once: Outshoot the Capitals. All other six games Vasy got shelled and the team got pinned in their own zone all game.
    Vegas had 5 ESG. The closest we came was 3 ESG.

    So a bunch of misfits and nerds (I exaggerate) have done done what the league's greatest offense hasn't done all series. Oops.
     
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    Yea I just dont think our team worked hard enough in those final 2 games. We were playing hard but we werent going to the difficult areas. We werent keeping our feet moving in the ozone. Bad passes by our top players too. Just not on the same page. I blame Coop for this and obviously the players. It is just weird because we looked like a different team vs the Caps than against Boston and NJ. It made no sense.
     
  25. Todd1a

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    I'm for firing cooper his system sinks give another coach a crack with this line up we have
     

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