Gaineys not even in the discussion, he wasnt great but he was nowhere near Bergevin and Houle when it comes to suckitude.
Here's a bunch of 20 something fanboys who have been following hockey for an average of 10 years and who claim MB is the "worst GM of all time".
Is this the Donald Trump effect or what? I miss the days when you could come on that board and have a balanced and nuanced debate between knowledgeable hockey fans. The level of discussion here has never been so weak and boring. This thread alone is embarrassing.
Markov???...lol....come on man, He left the nhl and couldn’t even make his own national team for the olympics when no nhl players were going.
-Radulov left and is a Nashville castoff also
-DSP is a NJ castoff (formerly known as Smith-Belly)....and the ridicule that went on when we traded the Czech for him, it was an absolute tragedy, but now it’s a platform for ridicule....come on
-Pateryn......Irrelevant
-Morrow??...
Debrincat and Girard???....Girard is another Nashville castoff.....like your going so many layers deep to find **** lol
We never owned Debrincat
Andrighetto.....ya, ok lol
Galchenyuk, Sergachev, Eller and PK are our castoffs......make fun of that if you want, the rest is a reach.
1. Radulov plays his heart out for Montreal & puts up 54 points in 77 games.
2. Radulov makes it clear that he wants to stay long-term for around $6 million per.
3. Bergevin tells him to take a hike even though there is plenty of cap space.
4. Dallas offers $6,250,000 x 5 & Radulov gives them 72 points in 82 games.
5. Montreal loses a 1st line player for absolutely nothing for no reason at all.
In the meantime:
1. Bergevin trades his best prospect in 10 years for a downgrade on Radulov.
2. Bergevin immediately gives this unproven player Radulov's cap space.
3. Bergevin then gives a similar contract to Karl mother ******* Alzner.
4. Montreal is now missing two elite players & twice as much cap space.
And then you come in:
"If you criticize Bergevin for Radulov...you're just reaching...because Nashville"
And I can easily make the same argument about Markov....He wanted to stay but Bergy told him to suck it & signed Alzner instead. Who would you rather have....Markov for 1 more year or Alzner for 4 more years?
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I'm aware that I could have served you the truth without such ravaging destruction of your manhood....but I noticed that you posted a laughing face emoji to support your ill-advised criticism....there's a line between being incorrect & being incorrect + rude. You now know where to tow it.
If we get no centres in draft and trade or UFA, I’ll want him gone!!You have come a long way Jaffy. Nobody can make you despise Bergevin and that’s your right. But it’s great you’re seeing the failures. That being said, that single post you just made did seem like a grocery list of excuses.
Corey was definitely pulling the strings, Houle was the puppetTough choice. Houle traded Roy, Turgeon and Damphousse for peanuts but I really think Corey was pulling the strings.
Bergevin on the other hand is a one man wrecking crew. He's destroyed the team. He's stupid, arrogant and incompetent. I didn't think he was as bad as Houle till he made the Drouin and Domi trades. He's the worst GM in the league no doubt about it now. I voted Bergevin.
Gainey is awful, but for reasons that are obvious, he gets a pass on HF.
If we get no centres in draft and trade or UFA, I’ll want him gone!!
Forget their new teams.To be fair to that guy, this board makes a correlation to success based on making the playoffs/how far you go regardless of the team around you when it comes to a trade. You know, as long as it serves the purpose of "proving" that person's point.
Sort of like plus/minus doesn't matter unless it helps your argument
That's one way of looking at it. But Bergs has 5 years left on 5 million dollar per and Julien has 4 left on a 5 million per. Going to be a tough bullet for Molson to takeIf this Domi deal falls flat and he does little else this summer, it will be Bergevin and easily.
Gainey did some serious damage as well. I agree, he gets a pass on HF boards. I wouldn't say he is the worse in history but he should be in the discussion. Started off very well but the 2nd half of his tenure was brutal. He left us in bad shape and one of the major reasons they Habs have had a very bad prospect pool was the 8 top 100 picks from 2008-2011. It set us back many years and we are only turning the corner now.
Gainey left us with a prime Price, Subban, Pacioretty, Eller, Gallagher, Galchenyuk, etc... Bergevin will be leaving the next GM with no bluechip prospects, an over the hill #1 defenseman and goalie both with contracts that are in the running for the worst contracts in the NHL. You've defended Bergevin for years quite arrogantly too while you're throwing crap on a guy that won multiple stanley cups as a player and with Dallas as a GM? This is why I will never respect your opinion ever.
Well if you don't respect my opinion, don't reply. We have a mutual agreement here. I really don't care how you debate your opinion cause you get disrespectful. Grow up, people are allowed to disagree.
You turned into a Gainey vs Bergevin debate on your own buddy... then went on to hate me for it. Wake the hell up. My comment was Gainey did not leave us in a good situation. Our prospect pool was terrible! He gets a pass on HF boards and he should not. He didn't do that much good in the end and I was a fan of his.
My comment was about Gainey, not Bergevin.
Right and my comment is how Gainey left us with better players and in a MUCH better situation than we are now and I am fully convinced that we would be competing for a Cup had Gainey been shown the same level of patience that Bergevin has. If you write BS and nonsense expect to get called out on it. You said we are just now turning a corner? What corner are we turning? We missed making the playoffs twice in the past three years. This is what you call turning the corner? You really think the habs are going to make the playoffs this year with their ECHL lineup? So yes I highly question the intelligence of anyone still left defending this man.
Well, Move on. Cause I have no interest in a Gainey vs Bergevin twist. My comment was about Gainey. And you still don't agree. It's OK