Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by TheRedressor, Jul 21, 2006.
Marc Staal or Cam Barker?
Though call. Barker
nod to barker
I'll get the first "Staal" vote in.
Second the Staal vote.
ugh, this is another one of those "potential upside vs. likelyhood to reach it" type of things
Barker I would say has more potential upside...if it all comes togther he can be a #1 defenseman who scores, hits, plays defense, etc. The likelyhood of him reaching that, however, is less than the likelyhood of Staal reaching his potential of being a rock solid defender who can move the puck well and add some points. A #2 type defenseman.
and personally I've never been a huge Barker fan, so I'd go with Staal unless you're willing to take the risk
What he said, except I've never been a huge Staal fan, and I am willing to take the risk.
well... Can Barker shut down Ovechkin?
EASILY Cam Barker for many reasons. First off he has the potential to be the next Rob Blake, a 50 point d-man along with that nack of toughness and grit. He can be the man that will be there when it counts. Secondly hes playing for Chicago a team with alot of upside and he'll have a great partner aside him in Brent Seabrook. Marc Staal is stuck New York. I dont care if they had a great year last year, come playoff time they acted like the Rangers of old...pathetic.
No disrespect to Marc Staal because he will become a great defensemen, but to compare him to the likes of Cam Barker is beyond me. This is obviously my opinion and I strongly believe that Cam Barker(barring injuries of course) will become a far better and well-wanted defensemen compared to Marc Staal.
I dunno, I had to flip a coin and I got Staal.
Never been a big fan of Barker. I'm not being a homer and overrating Staal, I'd just rather take my chances with the more sure thing. I wouldn't be surprised if Barker never reached his pre-draft potential.
Flip a coin. I was never high on Barker but it sounds like he has really improved and had a huge Blackhawk camp, so good infact that the management decided not to pursue an offensive defenseman via free agency.
Flip a coin again on that one if the question is if it was a smart move.
Barker...has more potential.
I agree with you.
can't answer that until we see Barker play...
barker has more offensive upside and can qb a powerplay, staal kills penalties, and shuts down top lines, i cant say who is more physical though. stall is the safer pick, and if he ever developed his offensive game in the nhl, i would say he would be the better choice, and from what i heard from the local medicine hat sportswriter say, he isnt a fan favorite in medicine hat (which is puzzling)
i would say staal by a hair.
also can staal please stop being compared to offensively great prospect d men
bourdon barker etc... parent is a better comparison
Good thread. Two really good players that could make an impact. Big fan of Marc Staal, as he proved to be a force, especially in the WJC. Barker, i have also given much praise for, as he soon will be running the Blackhawks blueline.
My pick goes to Staal on this, not bc he's a rangers prospect, but bc of how he's progressing, even though Barker has more potential.
I dont think ... Staal could IMO
but offensively I'll go with Barker
I'd say Staal, based on the WJC, but i havent seen barker play a whole lot.
I'll go with Staal though really I haven't seen much of Barker so he could be better.
i don't think you remember last year's WJC finals, Stall praticaly shut down Ovechkin on his own, was playing with Parent if i remember, Ovechkin was pissed at the end of the game cause he coudn't do anything
Ovechkin was not in the 2006 tourney with Staal and Parent....
Barker by a significant margin but not a huge one.
Staal shut down Malkin
What happened to Barker last year? why only 26 games? bad injury?
from what I remember around the time barker was drafted and the year after, people were really questioning his ability to play a mistake free defensive game. Questioned his head and that while he could put up some offense and lay some hits, he was inconsistant in his own end.
Wouldn't surprise me if that's changed some