ToneDog
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If we grab one at the draft, what are the chances of them cracking the starting line-up in the fall? We'll have to do more than draft.
Zero percent unless you mean in a trade
If we grab one at the draft, what are the chances of them cracking the starting line-up in the fall? We'll have to do more than draft.
Even a HR at the draft is years away for the Leafs.
It would be a long term plan. I honestly could see Bozak being resigned if he is willing to take AAV representative of a #3C. Leafs will have to sign at least 1 center next year if Nylander doesn't transition over and 2 if aaltonen doesn't take over the 4C spot.If we grab one at the draft, what are the chances of them cracking the starting line-up in the fall? We'll have to do more than draft.
agree on Bozak, and I think 2-3 years @ 3C money gets it done for a guy with a young kid at home. Really not concerned about the C position next year at this point, we have lots of options with Nylander, Marleau, option to resign Bozak/Plekanec and some alright UFA'sIt would be a long term plan. I honestly could see Bozak being resigned if he is willing to take AAV representative of a #3C. Leafs will have to sign at least 1 center next year if Nylander doesn't transition over and 2 if aaltonen doesn't take over the 4C spot.
Yup a 3 year deal at 3C money would be fine from my POV and hopefully Bozak's lol. I haven't been a big fan of Patty at center, as he ages more he would probably get worse at center too.agree on Bozak, and I think 2-3 years @ 3C money gets it done for a guy with a young kid at home. Really not concerned about the C position next year at this point, we have lots of options with Nylander, Marleau, option to resign Bozak/Plekanec and some alright UFA's
Yup a 3 year deal at 3C money would be fine from my POV and hopefully Bozak's lol. I haven't been a big fan of Patty at center, as he ages more he would probably get worse at center too.
Evidently Plek already has a deal in place with Montreal, sort of a handshake agreement so I wouldn't count on him coming back.
Edit: I guess the real question is what will 3C AAV look like with the rising cap
If Bozak wants to test the market and see what his best offer looks like then come back and see if we're close that would probably work too. I would guess 3C money is somewhere in the 4.5-5% of cap range, like mid-upper $3M'sYup a 3 year deal at 3C money would be fine from my POV and hopefully Bozak's lol. I haven't been a big fan of Patty at center, as he ages more he would probably get worse at center too.
Evidently Plek already has a deal in place with Montreal, sort of a handshake agreement so I wouldn't count on him coming back.
Edit: I guess the real question is what will 3C AAV look like with the rising cap
Or provorov for that matter.Liljegren is really the only Dman in the system at present that has any real upside and plays RHD, but still years away from being a regular.
Leafs right side D is among the weakest in the NHL at present.
Hainsey is old a LHD playing on the right side, Zaitsev is a 2nd pairing guy and in his prime age, while Carrick and Polak are #7 dmen swapping in and out in the #6 role.
This is where not taking a Zach Werenski when the chance was there is having long-term impact.
Rielly -- Werenski
Gardiner -- Zaitsev
Dermott -- Hainsey
I see Zaitsev is settling in nicely to the Larry Murphy "our fan base is asinine" role.
Who are you going to bring in internally to fill the #3C and #4C spot?I have 0 interest in bringing back Bozak. He will continue to decline at his age. He already looks like he barely moves at points. I think I rather fill that position internally. We don't have to spend millions on a #3c. Time to move on. He is also being spoon fed PP time and still only has 8 PPP. Below average defensively. Needs to be sheltered. Don't want the Leafs to pay 3+ mil for that.
Ya I was thinking in that 3.75 AAV range. I think Aalt should be a lock for that 4C spot if he continues playing pretty well for the Marlies.If Bozak wants to test the market and see what his best offer looks like then come back and see if we're close that would probably work too. I would guess 3C money is somewhere in the 4.5-5% of cap range, like mid-upper $3M's
I heard that about Plekanec too, but that team is going to be hot garbage and the media is ravenous when they aren't good, I wouldn't want to sign up for that if I had a better option so wonder if he could be swayed. Bigger question will be if we want him back I think
also seems like we're developing a pattern of adding a bottom 6 center ad the deadline each year, so I don't think we necessarily have to have the 4 guys in place that we're going into the playoffs with to start the season. I'd be fine with re-signing Moore and letting him, Aaltonen & Goat fight for the bottom line spot and upgrade at the deadline if necessary
agree on Bozak, and I think 2-3 years @ 3C money gets it done for a guy with a young kid at home. Really not concerned about the C position next year at this point, we have lots of options with Nylander, Marleau, option to resign Bozak/Plekanec and some alright UFA's
Who are you going to bring in internally to fill the #3C and #4C spot?
Any UFA you bring in will probably cost more term and AAV than Bozak for less productivity.
probably because Nylander will be signed at winger money next year, I wouldn't want him excelling in a C position right now either with the money that Draisatl gotNylander wont play center next year lets be honest if he has 1 bad game Babs moves him back to the wing, if he's not willing to give Nylander a chance to work through bad games now while Matthews is injured, when the games don't mean much since our playoff spot is all but guaranteed, what chance does he give him that opportunity next year?
I started by saying if Nylander is to stay on Matthews wing to start next year which is looking more and more likely.You have a young budding star C in Nylander. He should be a full time C.
Hardly that. Larry Murphy was a Hall of Fame player, Cup winner, and 3 time all star. He never came in with those expectations.
The playoff stretch isn't the time to hone his craft as a centerman. Instead he'll have all summer/training camp to work on it.Nylander wont play center next year lets be honest if he has 1 bad game Babs moves him back to the wing, if he's not willing to give Nylander a chance to work through bad games now while Matthews is injured, when the games don't mean much since our playoff spot is all but guaranteed, what chance does he give him that opportunity next year?
Borgman was ahead of Valiev imo.It's seems to me that no combo of Zaitsev/Polak/Carrick is doing the job for the Leafs. Yes I know that the 6th D on many teams is not great, but who will round out the right side once the playoffs start? Is there a graduating Marlie that can step in? Can we get away with:
Rielly Hainsey
Gardiner Dermott
_______ Zaitsev
?
Please don't tell me that Vailev was that guy.
Is Liljegren ready?
This core is going to be depth deficient in key areas if we don't get some players drafted/developing.Even a HR at the draft is years away for the Leafs.
No one.
Gardiner and Zaitsev dont make each other better, so I hope Babcock will try something new. I doubt it, but theres a sliver of hope within me.
The playoff stretch isn't the time to hone his craft as a centerman. Instead he'll have all summer/training camp to work on it.