Hull would have 7, 1 of which was shared.
True. I counted his WHA goalscoring lead as well.
Hull would have 7, 1 of which was shared.
Right outside 30 but with a cup win he'll jump into 18 or 19 for me
this makes no sense.
The numbers are right there.
crosby 5 points in 7 game 7s? your point?3G 3A in 10GP with -2 in games 7
That’s hardly clutch.
crosby 5 points in 7 game 7s? your point?
That Ovechkin shouldn’t get the free pass for his team insuccess. He’s not clutch by any mean and often doesn’t show up in crucial games
Crosby also played in the 3rd round and 4th round, where its historically harder to score points.
So Crosby shows up with his 5 points?That Ovechkin shouldn’t get the free pass for his team insuccess. He’s not clutch by any mean and often doesn’t show up in crucial games
Crosby also played in the 3rd round and 4th round, where its historically harder to score points.
Top 20.
So Crosby shows up with his 5 points?
Here’s a hint, you actually need a team to step up and help your star out. Look at game 7 against the rangers for the caps, who scored? OV. They lost, why? Cause their team couldn’t buy a goal.
Game 7 vs Detroit for Crosby, nothing. They won; why? Talbot had the game of his life. Game 7 vs Montreal 2010, they lost. Why? Because Crosby nor his team showed up.
Crosby, game 7 vs NY in 2014, blew a 3-1 lead and didn’t have a point in the last few games. Why? He and his team didn’t show up. Why didn’t Crosby close that series out? He’s clutch no?
For OV, game 7 vs Montreal, he had a goal taken away that was BULL****, and an assist. Had like a million shots. They lost, why? Halak has the series of his life.
Now for sure OV has had his moments where he could have stepped up 100%. But don’t act like he doesn’t try his hardest to will his team to win. His best and his teams best have never coincided.
Both OV and Crosby have had their moments of failure, so don’t try to make Crosby out as some game 7 hero who can go get you a goal whenever he sees fit. You actually need a team to win
I already pointed out your last statement, where there were moments that where ovi could have stepped up even more, and that both his best and his teams best haven’t coincided. I conceded that already. I also said that both him and SC have had their share of failures, it’s just that when Crosby doesn’t show up, his team can pick up the slack!Why are you always making excuses for Ovi? Crosby also played against that same Halak the same year in a game 7. Ovi also had games where his team won without getting on the scoresheet either. Don't forget that in 2009 Crosby was up against Z and Lidstrom. Those two did absolutely nothing in that game 7. Also if you remember, Crosby was injured that game and did not return. The moment Sid left, Detroit started controlling the game while Pittsburgh was in all-defense mode. You're acting like Ovechkin is the only guy who steps up for his team in the playoffs, which isnt true.
Source?
I already pointed out your last statement, where there were moments that where ovi could have stepped up even more, and that both his best and his teams best haven’t coincided. I conceded that already. I also said that both him and SC have had their share of failures, it’s just that when Crosby doesn’t show up, his team can pick up the slack!
I wish Ovi would do more 100%, to say that he has been a great leader all the time is not true, however, you cannot say that the reason they do not advance is because of OV fully. He has blame 100%, but it’s more on his team. They haven’t been able to put OV in a position to win. Look at their past few game 7 goal outputs:
2017: shutout
2015: 1 G
2013: shutout
2010: 1 G
2009: 2 G
2008: the only season where they scored more than 2 goals in a game 7; 3
In all of the games they scored, OV recorded at least a point
You arent winning when you score at a rate of 1.16 gpg as a team in an ELIMINATION GAME
i said he at least recorded a point in the games they were not shut out, and if i recall, the goal he scored in G7 in 2010, got called back because of a BS goalie interference call, im still pissed about it.Ill never blame only one player for his team failures. However, like Ive pointed out, Ovi had two or three games seven when he didnt showed up at all. Crosby has one. BTW, OV didnt scored a goal in 2010's game 7.
Ok, so Ill take every top scorer from every playoffs since the 2005 lockout (Sid's and OV's 1st season) and compare their numbers for round 1 and 2 vs 3 and 4
2006: Eric Staal 28 PTS - 15 PTS in 11 GP for 1,36 PPG vs 13 PTS in 14 GP for 0,93 PPG (8 PTS in the finals)
2007: Daniel Alfredsson 22 PTS - 11 PTS in 10 GP 1,1 PPG vs 11 PTS in 10 GP for 1,1 PPG (5 PTS in the finals)
Jason Spezza 22 PTS - 12 PTS in 10 GP for 1,2 PPG vs 10 PTS in 10 GP for 1 PPG (2 PTS in the finals)
Dany Heatley 22 PTS - 14 PTS in 10 GP 1,4 PPG vs 8 PTS in 10 GP for 0,8 PPG (1 PT in the finals)
2008: Henrik Zetterberg 27 PTS - 13 PTS in 10 GP for 1,3 PPG vs 14 PTS in 12 GP for 1,17 PPG (6 PTS in the finals)
Sidney Crosby 27 PTS - 14 PTS in 9 GP for 1,56 PPG vs 13 PTS in 11 GP for 1,18 PPG (6 PTS in the finals)
2009: Evgeni Malkin 36 PTS - 19 PTS in 14 GP for 1,36 PPG vs 17 PTS in 11 GP for 1,55 PPG (8 PTS in the finals)
2010: Daniel Brière 30 PTS - 15 PTS in 12 GP for 1,25 PPG vs 15 PTS in 11 GP for 1,36 PPG (12 PTS in the finals !!!)
2011: David Krejci 23 PTS - 10 PTS in 11 GP for 0,91 PPG vs 13 PTS in 14 GP for 0,93 PPG (6 PTS in the finals)
2012: Anze Kopitar 20 PTS - 10 PTS in 9 GP for 1,11 PPG vs 10 PTS in 11 GP for 0,91 PPG (5 PTS in the finals)
Dustin Brown 20 PTS - 11 PTS in 9 GP for 1,22 PPG vs 9 PTS in 11 GP for 0,81 PPG (4 PTS in the finals)
2013: David Krejci 26 PTS - 17 PTS in 12 GP for 1,42 PPG vs 9 PTS in 10 GP for 0,9 PPG (5 PTS in the finals)
2014: Anze Kopitar 26 PTS - 19 PTS in 14 GP for 1,36 PPG vs 7 PTS in 12 GP for 0,58 PPG (2 PTS in the finals)
2015: Patrick Kane 23 PTS - 13 PTS in 10 GP for 1,3 PPG vs 10 PTS in 13 GP for 0,78 PPG (3 PTS in the finals)
Tyler Johnson 23 PTS - 12 PTS in 13 GP for 0,92 PPG vs 11 PTS in 13 GP for 0,85 PPG (2 PTS in the finals)
2016: Logan Couture 30 PTS - 17 PTS in 12 GP for 1,42 PPG vs 13 PTS in 12 GP for 1,08 PPG (6 PTS in the finals)
2017: Evgeni Malkin 28 PTS - 18 PTS in 12 GP for 1,5 PPG vs 10 PTS in 13 GP for 0,77 PPG (4 PTS in the finals)
So, only 4 players amongst the 17 players listed (24%) had a better PPG (or equal) in the last two rounds of the playoffs and 5 of them (29%) had more points in the last two rounds than the first two.
Fun fact: None of the leading playoffs scorers had a better PPG or more points in the last two rounds compared to the first two after 2012
oh, they went past the second round under dale hunter? never knew. they haven't had a "best playoff run" yet smhCaps' best playoffs run was under Dale Hunter when Ovechkin played 13-14m/g. That's all you need to know
Caps' best playoffs run was under Dale Hunter when Ovechkin played 13-14m/g. That's all you need to know