Discussion in 'Winnipeg Jets' started by 10Ducky10, Mar 10, 2018.
"Nice deal. AAV is definitely team friendly. Good job Chevy&Little!"
You've changed your mind?
That's no assumption. It's a fact. Jets need to shed salary to resign Wheeler + all the RFAs.
How many 33-34 year olds you want on your team at the same time? Youll have buff wheeler Little Perrault and possibly enstrom? Time to cut some of these guys loose.
Keep in mind that the cap is going up $5-7 million next season, and continues to go up. I think if Chevy is creative, and uses bridge deals on guys like Helle, we should be able to keep most of the core guys around.
Enstrom won't be brought back. Buff and Perreault might need to be traded a bit before their contract expires. Right now Little's contract is looking like a mistake, especially since we now know Wheeler can play centre.
But who is the core is the question? The old guard? Wheeler, Little, Enstrom, Buff. Perrault, or the new guard. Schief, Laine, Ehlers, Roslovic, Connor, Morrissey, Trouba, Helle.
Good question. I think it's a bit of both, but the younger guys should be a priority (i.e. keep Connor over Perreault).
I wouldn't rush to sign him to an extension. I would give him a decent offer the summer he hits free agency. Assuming his play doesn't decline I would offer him slightly less than he deserves on a short term contract, maybe 27M 3 years.
I think he's been really pivotal for Laine's success on the PP. There's a reason he leads the league in PP assists. He's also a character guy. Hard to speculate, but I would guess he's a really important part of the locker room.
$9 million a year? !! I'm thinking more like $7 million per year at 3-4 years max.
38 yo Marleau is coming off a 46 point season and he signed a contract where he makes 8.5M this season. Wheeler is twice the player and when his next contract kicks in he's going to be 5 years younger and the salary cap is going to be higher.
38 yo Thornton had 50 points last season and signed a contract for 8M.
I knew Wheeler was underrated around the league since people don't really follow Winnipeg, but it's sad he's so underrated in Winnipeg also. During the last 3 years only Kane, Crosby, Kucherov and McDavid have scored more points than Wheeler.
Marleau also signed for a team he didnt play his whole career with. You would hope that would buy us a homer discount. In addition, just because name two 38-year-old players it would be hard to name another who is not Jagr.
Marleau signed $6,250,000 AAV for 3 years and Thornton 8 mil for 1 year... That's a bit different than throwing 30mil 3 years at a player that's past his prime(age wise) and has never been a ppg player(other than this year.)
21mil 3 years max.
Yeah, Marleau is gonna have a cap hit of 6.25M when his last year kicks in as a 41 years old. I don't see how that's any better. Yet Wheeler apparently only deserves .75M more than Marleau on a 3 year contract from 33 to 36. Makes no sense. 7M cap hit is reasonable only if the deal is 7 years.
Maybe it would be better for him to just walk away as UFA. He could go play in a market that appreciates him.
I think Winnipeg appreciates him. It's just giving a 7 year contract to a 33 year old is risky. It's not about appreciation, it's about making smart decisions.
What you stated was an opinionated assumption. Opinionated assumptions are not fact.
I think the upcoming playoffs will be a huge yard stick on whether Wheeler gets a big money contract, Littles extension hasn't kicked in yet and his year so far has been underwhelming, Perraeult has had an up and down season, if this team goes out in the first round these 3 players might need to move on. Just the same hoping to make it into the 2nd round and beyond.
Wheeler can play centre, but Little is massively better defensively while doing that.
Not sure if you understand how it works but his contract holds a 6.25m AAV.
Well Little will take care of that pgg pace of Wheeler’s.
Because the low contract gets used for comparison for future contracts. I thought this was common knowledge in sports.
He should sign 4x4 but he will probably get same avg salary as Little, if he signs with the team.
The thing is, most of the significant RFAs we need to sign during the next two offseasons have already been bridged. That group includes Hellebuyck, Trouba, Lowry and Armia. Laine, Connor and Morrissey are the only ones coming off their ELCs.
We should be able to give decent extensions to most of our RFAs while still having enough money for Wheeler, but the tradeoff is having next to no shots at strengthening the team by free agency/retaining other veterans.
I have no idea what Blake will sign for, and it's a business so if he goes for what he is worth, good for him, he has earned that. But, I do think he's going to work with Chevy and do a deal that accommodates the team more than himself and leave money on the table. I think he wants to win, and he wants to win here and the best shot at that is within the next 2-3 years for himself and guys like Little and Buff who have been here for the long haul. You can see the fire in his eyes when he talks about being traded by Boston a mere months before they won the cup in 2011, and I think he knows this is as good of opportunity he will likely ever get again in his NHL career. I don't know what number Blake ends up taking, but I think it's going to be a fair one and one that shows he is here to win. He could likely cash out (potentially here or elsewhere) but I don't think that's his end game at this point in his career here in Winnipeg.
Just my hunch.
Couldn’t agree more. I feel the same way Guerzy.