Wheeler's Next contract

[robertocarlos]

Chevy has to offer him 5 years 35 million. Probably the sticking points will be what to offer in terms of bonus money for the lockout and how top heavy the contract should be the first years.

 

[KingBogo]

I really don't think that. like I said I was just being an ass about a previous thread and last year about troubas contract.



I can dig this

trouba for 6m would be nice. don't care if it was for only 4 years

I see jets window for a cup starting now til scheifele's contract is up
and then we'll see what happens after that
but I think the jets best years could be in the next 2 to 4 years

so I really wouldn't mind some of these guys for shorter contracts so they can fit all these players under the cap

Yeah I think Chevy will need to get pretty creative to hold together this group. This summer should prove very interesting.

 

[Deedog99]

well laine is taking no less than 10 million cuz mcdavid and eichels contract says so

trouba is signing for 8 million because market value says so

so there's no room for wheeler

Might be time to start cutting ties with the guys who have been here since 2011. Lol

 

[Peggy]

Might be time to start cutting ties with the thrashers leftovers.

only player I can see not fitting under the salary from thrasher players in buff
he's the most expensive player on the team. should've signed for a flat 7m instead of "closer" to 8

can see him declining pretty soon tho so 6.5 would be ideal for his last years of his contract

 

[bustamente]

Salary Cap will be helped out by how quickly the younger prospects will be able to push out some of the vets. Is Niku, Vesalaine, and or Lemieux and Petan going to be ready in the next 2 years.

 

[nobody important]

If Laine wants 10m - let him go

If they do, I won't be far behind.

 

[KingBogo]

Salary Cap will be helped out by how quickly the younger prospects will be able to push out some of the vets. Is Niku, Vesalaine, and or Lemieux and Petan going to be ready in the next 2 years.

Lemieux and Petan aren't going to push out the type of vet that saves you money. Niku is likely a few years away yet and Toby will be pushed out before that by father time. Vesalaine on an ELC will likely come in very handy for us in a couple years.

 

[Vekke]

I know that you guys live the vets and it is nice that they have appreciation. At the same time Jets can’t commit to all vets.

It would be utterly stupid to keep Little, Buffy and Wheeler long term because they will get worse sooner or later and many prospects would have to go. You can’t have it all.

 

[Duke749]

Might be time to start cutting ties with the thrashers leftovers.

What an ignorant post

 

[BB88]

well laine is taking no less than 10 million cuz mcdavid and eichels contract says so

trouba is signing for 8 million because market value says so

so there's no room for wheeler

Market has not said 8M for Trouba.

I know that you guys live the vets and it is nice that they have appreciation. At the same time Jets can’t commit to all vets.

It would be utterly stupid to keep Little, Buffy and Wheeler long term because they will get worse sooner or later and many prospects would have to go. You can’t have it all.

Buff will only have few years left when Wheeler contract kicks in.

Perreault is still the guy I'm looking to move after next season to lower the risk rate on contracts.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Trouba is worth 7 Million at the very highest. I'd personally give him 5 Million AAV, but I do think we should trade him because I've always thought he was overrated.

Personally, I think we should trade him while his value is high, been saying this since he didn't want to sign in Winnipeg. Might benefit us going forward.

 

[BB88]

Trouba is worth 7 Million at the very highest. I'd personally give him 5 Million AAV, but I do think we should trade him because I've always thought he was overrated.

Personally, I think we should trade him while his value is high, been saying this since he didn't want to sign in Winnipeg. Might benefit us going forward.

If you go to UFA market you need to pay 5M+ already to get a top4 D-man longterm.
If you can get Trouba at 6-7M it makes a lot of sense, and is really good value wise even if he doesn't turn into real #1D.

You really shouldn't be focusing on creating a massive hole on defense, I've learned the value of defensive game over the last few years watching the Bruins fall and rise and how defense has played a part in it.
Not to mention watching Dallas fail with their superstar forwards because their defensive game hasn't been able to do their job.

 

[kylbaz]

The PA can't forbid any player from accepting any deal. They can frown on it and complain - but even then, with the way salaries are tied to revenues, if Blake Wheeler takes a discount that's money that ends up in the hands of another player...so why would they complain?

They would certainly frown upon it which would be enough to stop him from doing it. His agent would also attempt to stop him as well. Business 101.

 

[Gm0ney]

They would certainly frown upon it which would be enough to stop him from doing it. His agent would also attempt to stop him as well. Business 101.

Why would NHLPA disapproval stop a player from doing anything? You think this is a militant blue collar shop that can exert any kind of real pressure on their millionaire playboy members?

And agents work for players, not vice versa. They can advise and try to convince, but their clients are ultimately driving the bus. 3% of 5M is still good money ($150k vs say $195k for 3% of $6.5M) and if the player says "I'm 33 with a family, $20M in the bank and winning [or location or friends or cosmic karma] is more important than getting full fair market value" you're following his directions, not telling him "no, the Golden Knights are offering you $6M x 5 so I told them yes. Pack your bags." Agent-Client Relations 101.

 

[10Ducky10]

What makes you think Buff is about to start declining?

only player I can see not fitting under the salary from thrasher players in buff
he's the most expensive player on the team. should've signed for a flat 7m instead of "closer" to 8

can see him declining pretty soon tho so 6.5 would be ideal for his last years of his contract

 

[Peggy]

What makes you think Buff is about to start declining?

he's just really inconsistent(or he has been don't know about recentl and he's getting older
it's just odds and probablity. you cant assume he'll keep it up

 

[10Ducky10]

For 3 more years I can.

 

[Peggy]

For 3 more years I can.

alright then

 

[10Ducky10]

Well, he is only signed for three more years.

 

[Peggy]

Well, he is only signed for three more years.

yeah that's true. for someone reason I thought it was a little longer

 

[kunekune]

Usually don't think giving long term contract for 33 years old player in a good thing but Wheeler is expection.

Fitting him in to salary cap will a be a problem tho.

Myers, Little and Perreault must be sold before Wheeler signs a new contract.

Oh, how ironic it would be if Littles new contract blocks Wheeler from being re-signed. That's a fireable mistake.

 

[Duke749]

Usually don't think giving long term contract for 33 years old player in a good thing but Wheeler is expection.

Fitting him in to salary cap will a be a problem tho.

Myers, Little and Perreault must be sold before Wheeler signs a new contract.

Oh, how ironic it would be if Littles new contract blocks Wheeler from being re-signed. That's a fireable mistake.

Lol Ok then...

 

[10Ducky10]

Usually don't think giving long term contract for 33 years old player in a good thing but Wheeler is expection.

Fitting him in to salary cap will a be a problem tho.

Myers, Little and Perreault must be sold before Wheeler signs a new contract.

Oh, how ironic it would be if Littles new contract blocks Wheeler from being re-signed. That's a fireable mistake.

You don't like Little's contract either?

 

[kunekune]

Lol Ok then...

So you don't think signing Little and letting Wheeler go because of that is not a fireable mistake for GM?

If you crunch the numbers it's more than likely that Jets can't sign Wheeler because of Little's contract.

You don't like Little's contract either?

No true Jets fan like that contract. I'm not saying Little is a bad player and his AAV is alright but 6 years for someone who's on a decline is just outright horrible.

And if Jets can't ship him out (realistically who wants him for 6 years?) or can't buyout his contract and it means losing Wheeler then Little becomes easily the most hated Jets ever.

 

[Duke749]

So you don't think signing Little and letting Wheeler go because of that is not a fireable mistake for GM?

If you crunch the numbers it's more than likely that Jets can't sign Wheeler because of Little's contract.



No true Jets fan like that contract. I'm not saying Little is a bad player and his AAV is alright but 6 years for someone who's on a decline is just outright horrible.

And if Jets can't ship him out (realistically who wants him for 6 years?) or can't buyout his contract and it means losing Wheeler then Little becomes easily the most hated Jets ever.

That is one MASSIVE assumption that no one can logically make at this time. This is just going to be a pointless conversation.