What kind of player do you see Stephen Weiss becoming?

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  1. JayRice66

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    The guy is still only 22 years old. And has played for a pretty poor team down in florida. He didn't show much in his first 2 seasons. But in 03-04 he had 29 points in 50 games. Which is more than the 23 points he had previously in hist first 2 seasons in 84 games.

    I see this guy becoming a star. Not soon, but he will start to mature. 22 years old is still a young age. And he has 134 games of experience.
     
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    I dont know man. I dont see him as a first liner though. I see him as a serviceable second liner. I like his game. But i dont see first liner in him. :dunno:
     
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    Agreed.

    Very serviceable 2-way cenerman, average on faceoffs, good defensive game, not very physical, good passer/vision.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he has one All-Star game in about 5 years.
     
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    Morrison = Weiss is a few years
     
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    Bang on. When he is around 24-25yrs old he will start to really resemble Brendan Morrsion. I really see that comparison, and have thought that many times in the past also.
     
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    Second line player sounds just about right.
     
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    A very good second line centreman.
    Needs to get more explosive in his decision making to proceed in his career.
     
  9. Niewyndyke. That was his comparison durin his draft year. But with Martin as the new head coach will help Weiss alot.
     
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    I've been totally unimpressed by everything I've seen from Weiss since being drafted. He just doesn't have the skill set he was hyped to have when he went #4 overall. He's small, he's soft, he doesn't have blazing speed, and he wasn't even able to produce at a high level in the AHL last year. At this point I'd hedge he'll be a Stu Barnes-type smallish 40-45 point guy with good hands, and even that might be pushing it.
     
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    He DOES have the skill and the talent, but just doesn't have the flat out flying, all he needs is to get quicker IMO, both in hands, head and feet.
     
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    weiss has been lost in florida with the new players keep coming in. I think if he doesnt do well this year he'll be off to another team for a fresh start. Either that or the veterans will help him find his game.
     
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    I'll defer to other's opinions here about Weiss eventually evolving into a Brendan Morrison.

    However, just want to point out something that doesn't exactly make sense. Morrison is a productive first-line NHL center. Maybe not on a fantasy team, but he is on a genuine NHL team, a very competitive playoff team for a couple of years now. So to suggest that Weiss will become Morrison and then to say he is a future second-liner is a contradiction of sorts.

    I think we sometimes are unrealistic as to what constitutes a firstline center or a #1 dman, etc. in today's NHL.

    Not a big deal, but worth pointing out, because it happens all the time on these boards - you'd think there are about 5 guys worthy of 1st line status, leaguewide!
     
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    After reading some of those descriptions in this thread, I somehow have to think of Yannic Perrault.

    Can anyone agree with that?
     
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    65 points per season in his prime IMO... similar to Morrison, as stated above.
     
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    That was an accurate guess...
    ...insert closing sarcasim now
     
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    I'm disappointed with Weiss. I don't think he'll even be a Morrison because Morrison has lots of support and I don't see Weiss getting that in Florida. I also agree with Trottier. Morrison's really a weak first line center.

    I like the Yanic Perrault comparison. Because of his size and lack of speed he's a potential bust if he doesn't find work as a second liner somewhere. Weiss is not Keenan's type of player so he'll have to go elsewhere if he's going to play regularly in the National League. Send him to Montreal.

    Are there really that many people from Sweden here or do people just like the flag?
     
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    Weiss works hard and will never be a Yanic Perrault.

    And there are a lot of people here from sweden, Finland and all of the world.

    I am a finn residing in sweden.
     
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    Yanic Perrault

    Perrault has a legitimate scorers touch and fantastic hand eye co-ordination. He totally dominated the QMJHL but wasn't drafted until the third round. His scoring ability is the only reason he was drafted in the first place. He parlayed his hand eye co-ordination into being a faceoff king and put some points on the board even though he could not skate at the NHL level.

    His poor skating is why people think he's not a worker. Weiss can skate. Whether he has any other tools that will help him contribute remains to be seen. He's small and he's soft and he's not overly fast. I think the Perrault comparison is generous to Weiss who could well be a bust because he's an all-or-nothing second liner.
     
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    Weiss reminds me of Tim Connolly. You just wait for him to take off offensively and wait....and wait....maybe in spurts, but not consistently. I'm still waiting...
     
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    I think Morrison is a good one. He took a while to start to emerge and if weiss can get a cast around him, a sniper like BM has and a big body then he should be fine

    Basically, as long as Horton or Stewart can become 1-2nd line potential guys in arnott or more form, and they can land themselves a sniper who could throw up 30 gls a year, this kid could easily see around 60-80 pts being anywhere form line 1 to line 2.
     
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    Well... Weiss makes an effort and is very good defensively. Something that can't be said for Big Tim.
     
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    A regular in the Swiss league.
     
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    agreed... I think he'll be a consistent 50-65pts 2nd liner... depending on his linemates.

    Keenan is just the coach for him imho... good system, good young team.
     
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