What is Jake Gardiner??

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what is Jake Gardiner?

  1. #1 D

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  2. #2 D

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  3. #3 D

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  4. #4 D

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  5. bottom pairing D

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  1. DatSnipeMatthews

    DatSnipeMatthews Registered User

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    Jake Gardiner has got to be the most polarizing player the Leafs have ever had. To me, he's a borderline #2 D whereas a lot see him as an average second pairing D.

    Also, would you move on from him or re-sign him to an extension this off-season?
     
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    I don't know how people can see him as a 2D. He makes a lot of mistakes with the puck. He's a broderline 4D
     
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    Isn't he signed for next year?
     
  4. MattySnipes

    MattySnipes Don't count the days. Make the days count!

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    Yup. Next year is his contract year.
     
  5. DatSnipeMatthews

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    I'd consider Zaitsev a borderline #4 and he makes way more mistakes. Chipping it off the glass and out only to give it to the other team all the time is much worse than making the pass up the ice that often keeps possession but sometimes results in a turnover.
     
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    Jake Gardiner is mind boggling. He can be so good, but at the same time be terrible. When we first acquired him, wasnt there a rumor we were going to try him at forward or something?
     
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    Easily a #2 and bordering on a #1. He's been the Leafs #1 the past 25 or so games and carrying the anchor that is Zaitsev and still doing well.
     
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    the talent and value of a top pairing guy when he's on, but the consistency isn't really there. I'd call him a #3
     
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    #2 with flashes of #1
     
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    Borderline 4D? You're crazy. He is a #2 for sure.

    Tied for 7th in the League for points by a defender.
     
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    I'd also re-sign him long term for 5-6 million a year.
     
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    You make more mistakes when you control the puck more.
     
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    Then UFA?
     
  14. MattySnipes

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    Agree with @CantLoseWithMatthews

    He is a #3

    Gardiner is very polarizing like many have mentioned. When he's on he is arguably a #1 or #2 - see recent stretch where he's accumulated over 20 points, hitting on all his stretch passes, his vision (close to PPG if not over). Consistency has always been his issue. Due to this he is a second pairing defenseman.
     
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    I'd say a great #3 that can play like a #1 for stretchs but also play like a #6 for stretchs.

    I was once a hater whos grown to appreciate the things he brings to the table.
     
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    He's a good 2nd pairing D on a contender. Nothing wrong with him, but think our depth and needs elsewhere on the roster are what allow us to not re-sign him and potentially even move him this off-season.
     
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    Yes sir.
     
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    I'm sure most would agree that you don't know.
     
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    Then he'll have a say in this as well.
     
  20. thewave

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    He is a lot better without the Zaitsev anchor. That guy better figure his crap out fast because he is just horrible bad. Not Polak bad, it's an exaggeration but he should be playing our 3rd pairing the way he is.
     
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    You guys are nuts. He is a bottom pair PP specialist D-man on a SUCCESSFUL team. Way too inconsistent be relied upon in your top 4 for more than spot duty. Unfortunately, we don't have the right manpower to slot him properly currently.
     
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    You and @DarkKnight with this 3rd pairing narrative. Nothing of his stats or eye test suggest this. How the heck do you get Jake as a 3rd pairing guy is crazy.
     
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    he's 5th in points among defensemen since january 1st while playing mostly responsibly in his own end. when he's on he's fantastic
     
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    He's not a #2
     
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    Fair. I was probably too harsh in my judgement.
     

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