AdmiralPred said:
the original poster only went back to the Quebec move to Colorado. Why should the North Stars move to Dallas be included in his list of teams as moves that never happened?
I guess you'll need to be more specific making your connections from these AHL/ECHL/UHL franchises to the three NHL teams that are presumed to not have moved. I'm not sure I follow.
Perhaps, but in the original poster's scenario the North Stars have moved to Dallas. Everyone here thinks that Minny would then be granted one of the proposed expansion teams, as in reality, so I think that the Moose do move.
A few connections that I am not quite making, you'll need to explain yourself more. As for Louisville, AHL hockey was dead before it had a chance to grow in that community. Terrible ownership, terrible parent club support, but played in a fairly decent arena with comfortable seats and very, very few fans (so I didn't have to worry about someone sitting in front of me and blocking my view of the ice since the lower teir seats were laid out seemingly flat). The concessions weren't even open. Lexington was a bit different, I think the arena was closer to campus, or more easily accessable, and the college students got into it more than they did in Louisville. Bit better of a hockey following there.
Would Glendale arena be needed if the Yotes weren't in town?
Minnesota's move predates the Quebec transfer Admiral, as I recall, Stars fans in the Twin Cities despised Norm Green for taking the Minnesota franchise south to begin with, as the Met Center also was imploded to make room for the Mall of America, why do u think the Twins and Vikings ENDED UP IN a Dome.
as for the Nordiques move to Colorado, didn't the late John McMullen take his team to New Jersey 13 years before that and before Colorado got the Nordiques----which is well documented here-----the Colisee survived because the Remparts are the draw in Quebec, and the Canadiens attempted to put their prospects in Quebec but the fans in Quebec didn't show up to see the Citadelles and preferred the Q franchise and that's been documented also, just ask another AHL Fan THAT WAS IN Quebec AND HE himself preferred the junior team to the pro team.
That's one reason why the QMJHL has filled the markets the AHL had established in Atlantic Canada.
Put it this way:
Would the AHL have gone into Hartford and Quebec had the Whalers and Nordiques not been relocated, the AHL had no need to look @ Colorado at that point---is it the AHL's fault the franchise in Quebec is now in Hamilton, Admiral, hmmmm?
Another question u missed in my original post was would the 6 franchises who were implemented in 2001, still be in the IHL and would that league exist as it did up to that point???????
Louisville was not the experiment because Florida was so disgusted with the ownership they basically turned the team over to the AHL, and Florida had to coax Detroit out of their dormant franchise, that eventually the Spurs were sick of them and caused the upheaval that clouded the Rampage transfer to Phoenix.
Adirondack would most likely still be in the AHL instead of being transformed into the Rampage,Admiral, instead the Frostbite now call Glens Falls home, again if u had ever been to Glens Falls, u would know that---and I doubt Albany would be in the position it is, which may/may not be transferred.
Binghamton would still have the Rangers, and the Rangers wouldn't have made the decision to bolt for Hartford while Binghamton scrambled in the same league w/ Adirondack until 2001 WHEN the Senators left Grand Rapids.
Lexington was sold (bought by the parent team) and it was a coincidence that Cleveland was a market vacated by the decision made by said League that was expanded and would Worcester been bought and transferred had the IHL stayed active??????
How does the Moose move if the Stars had remained in Minnesota, and the Jets stayed in Winnipeg, there's no certainty that the Moose would be a franchise,but would there be franchises named Wild or Coyotes or would XCEL Center or Glendale and/or AWA be a pipe dream, hence the title of this thread "What If".
The Moose were formed to soften the blow of the Stars relocation to Dallas and it did that until the Wild were granted a franchise which Bettman rectified the decision made by Norm Green to move the Stars to Dallas.
in the Jets case it benefitted the Moose to fill a void in Winnipeg because of a displaced fanbase that had no choice but to do Winnipeg fans actually hate the Coyotes the way North Star fans were vocal about their franchise leaving,imho.
Winnipeg fans should be grateful that they have a team to support because that city would in worse economic shape had there not be a hockey franchise in Winnipeg and would MTS Centre been built if not for the Moose showing because what is there to do in Manitoba this time of year??????
