What if we get Dahlin?
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A puck moving defenseman will be a big part of our future. Because game is evolving towards them as they create more offense than any other position. I like Boqvist also. Either one would be an ace for the organization
In roughly 4 days, 11 hours, we find out... do we draft Tkachuk at #6 or do we draft him at #1? 
Brady Tkachuk is a really good player. I won’t be surprised if he goes #2 overall. He’s probably the most complete player of the 3 wingers Zadina Svechnikov and Tkachuk.
Zadina is a true sniper. High end NHL shot. In the same mode as Ehlers, Drouin, Meier.
Svechnikov drives the play and is both equally talent playmaker as he is scorer. In the same mode as Radulov, Carter, Scheifele.
Tkachuk is a physical offensive power forward with speed. In the same mode as Keith Tkachuk, Nash, Perry.
I would rank
1. Dahlin
2. Svechnikov
3. Tkachuk
4. Zadina
Zadina is a true sniper. High end NHL shot. In the same mode as Ehlers, Drouin, Meier.
Svechnikov drives the play and is both equally talent playmaker as he is scorer. In the same mode as Radulov, Carter, Scheifele.
Tkachuk is a physical offensive power forward with speed. In the same mode as Keith Tkachuk, Nash, Perry.
I would rank
1. Dahlin
2. Svechnikov
3. Tkachuk
4. Zadina
Damn, you really have a hard-on on Tkachuk if you think he could go #2, and most complete, nope, not at all, Zadina and Svechnikov both have wayyyyyy better shots. Tkachuk projects more as a complimentary physical winger (which is nice btw, for a team that have drivers, offensive catalysts) than a dynamo like Svechnikov could be.
And some of your comparisons, I don't know, Ehlers and Drouin both are playmakers, and Meier is more of a PF than anything, Zadina ain't nothing alike. And Radulov and Scheifele are more playmakers than scorers, Svechnikov is a true mix of sniper and PF, could be the next 'Kovalchuk' for what we know.
All in all, while I wouldn't be pissed of we draft Tkachuk, I wouldn't be that pleased either, we need a forward with game-breaking potential, not with complimentary potential, Svechnikov, Zadina and I believe Wahlstrom have game-breaking potential, not Tkachuk.
But hey, to each their own.
Personally, not. Dahlin may not be the centre we need but he is a generational talent who can lead us into the future. We probably won't be ready to really compete before Alner's contract is up anyways.
Probably not. Dahlin is a potential/likely franchise changing defenseman. Nurse/Klefbom are not, whether we get Draisaitl along with them or not.
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No no no. I'm not trading Dahlin for anything short of McDavid. I don't care how crazy that sounds, we absolutely should not even listen to any offers.
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I just think that having a generational talent on the back end is a luxury, and a luxury when youre lacking talent like the habs, you cant afford. You dont NEED to have a ultimate superstar on the back end to win a cup, but you need special talent in your forward group, look at all the past cup champs. If Dahlin can get us Drasaitl, a big young 1c PPg player+ a very solid young dman like Nurse, we should think hard about it.
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If Price and Pac bounce back we probably make the playoffs to be honest. Even if they only partially bounce back that's enough to put us in the middle of the pack.
Poor Josh Gorges. The ultimate anti-puck moving defenseman/offensive defenseman.
In one sense I get it. Offensive talent is more desirable than defensive talent. I do get it - I wish this was a number one center draft year too. But you really need to understand Dahlins talent. And like that poster said up the page a bit, this is where the NHL going. Not only do we expect offense from the defense I honestly think that going forward offense is going to be driven by the defense. You really can control the pace more from back there, control the break out, control the powerplay. In the modern NHL there is no problem with a defenseman driving the net or dangling into the slot or even literally playing as a forward deep in the zone for the duration of a pressure shift.
They also play more of the game. People forget this. The top fifty in minutes played is all defenseman.
If you get Dahlin you can have your best player on the ice literally half the game if you want.
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This post makes no sense.
Potentially drafting the next Pronger, Lidstrom or Bourque is not a luxury and its certainly not a pick you trade for that kind of return. Its a building block towards actually having a cup winning team.
That the Habs arent potent offensively is irrelevant as well. Dahlin will be 18 next year and likely staying with the team that drafts him for 15 years, giving plenty of opportunity to build an offense.
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Yeah i agree that in the new nhl, the offense is more and more driven by the back end. But its no secret that you need an amazing center line to win the cup and i really dont see how we're gonna fix that. I would really be comfortable with a top 5 ala Anaheim of Montour-Fowler-Manson -Vaatanen and Lindholm, no Elite, but all great puck movers.
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A luxury in the sense that having a generation talent on the back end is not a MUST to win a Stanley cup, but having an Elite no 1c is one. No 1 Center are 95% drafted in top 5, with Carey Price back to his normal play and Weber healthy you probably wont see another top 5 picks anytime soon and sorry but we dont have the trading chips to acquire one via trade so how are you gonna get one??
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I'd be shocked if Tkachuk isn't playing in the NHL next season. His brother made the NHL as an 18 year old and was basically a 50 point player.
Brady is by all accounts significantly better, will be a year older, and already has experience playing against grown men. Taking this into account I'd be shocked if he wasn't in the NHL next season.
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I really hope Price gets traded this summer. For Weber it wont be happening this off season, but its also coming. We need several shots at the top 5 the next few years. Drafting Dahlin wont ne enough that's the reality.
Thought about it. Nope. Your later question is the ultimate question of this thread: we have Dahlin, now what? We do absolutely need an elite center lineup to compete, that I agree with. So here's what we do: we keep tanking.
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