Speculation: What If the Rangers Win the Lottery?

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  1. NYRFANMANI

    NYRFANMANI beyond good and evil

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    Absolutely. It's all about stakes and money. Rangers are the lowest risk biggest cash-cow in the league ainec for decades. We won't get gifts unless we make them ourselves. The ref and media bias ... I mean really. Refs are bad in general, but I can see them being worse against us. Maybe it's perception, maybe it actually is so, we'll never know for sure I guess. NBC hates us for whatever reason (actually money), their broadcasting of Rangers games are outright unprofessional.

    We got a big piece of the pie, the pie ain't getting bigger overall fast enough, so teams/the league will try to take some of our piece. (By any means neccessary)

    The Pens f. ex., we're on the brink of extinction, but the stakes (Mario and Co.) and the history of the team, left the capital no choice. (I guess the Lemieux time left Pittsburgh with a potentially huge market gone asleep.) Crosby being the next one and automatically being a cash-cow himself. Capitalist gifts. That's all. Problem being, hockey is rather inconsequential, war ain't.
     
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  2. SnowblindNYR

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    Not sure how you put Ottawa with the first group and Edmonton with the second group. Ottawa came one goal away from the SCF last year and Edmonton was in the basement this year with McDavid.
     
  3. Mac n Gs

    Mac n Gs Gorton plz

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    People actually think there’s a chance to rig the lottery? IIRC, it’s contracted out in two parts: some company randomizes the number combinations for each lottery spot and Ernst & Young supervises the lottery drawing process.

    As much as I’d like for it to happen, it’s not that likely. Roughly 6% chance for each of the top 3 picks is at least better than where we were before the Isles game.
     
  4. Thirty One

    Thirty One Safe is safe.

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    I just don't understand why the other teams go along with the rigging.
     
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  5. haveandare

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    Yeah I'm not sure I buy it myself, but it's hard to deny that the 1OA went to teams that really needed elite players in years when those picks were almost guaranteed to be elite. Crosby and Kane may have saved storied franchises that weren't doing real well money wise. McDavid not so much in terms of his franchise being broke but they had already gotten a few 1OAs and were still trash despite having some of the most winning history in the league.
     
  6. Thirty One

    Thirty One Safe is safe.

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    Well the lottery is designed to give a better chance to the teams that need it. Chicago got ****ed by the 2004 lottery more than they've ever been helped by one.
     
  7. haveandare

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    Eh, Patty Kane has done alright for them, but yeah 2004 was the worst draft to fall to 3 in - pretty terrible draft overall after literally the first two picks.
     
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  8. NYRFANMANI

    NYRFANMANI beyond good and evil

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    What do you think it would be rigged for? Dreamy heart-warming story-lines? OR MONEY? We live under the capitalist paradigm after all.

    Matthews in Toronto generates much more capital, than Matthews in Arizona does, or ever could.Market size, world wide market, the media circus, the franchise history. It's like Crosby. Take a big cash-cow (rook) and put into an appropriate barn. Profit. Money.

    That simple.
     
  9. x BEUKEBOOM x

    x BEUKEBOOM x Buuuuuuuuuuuk !

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    Patrick Ewing is going to dominate center ice for us. #33 is available as well.
     
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    The question before was one of whether or not the NHL would rather have those talents in big or small markets. I agree that they'd prefer them in big markets, and am using Matthews as proof of that. Again, assuming one believes the NHL has anything to do with choosing.

    The other potential logic would be that teams like NYR and Toronto are going to rake in cash almost no matter what, but a team like AZ may need that type of player to fill seats.
     
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    would be about time that luck such as the Draft lottery came to the NYRs. would make this season seem half-way worthwhile.
     
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    If we landed the 1st pick.

    I could either draft Dahlin or trade with NYI.

    Rangers trade

    1st overall

    Islanders trade

    1st - 10th - Dobson
    1st - 12th - Farabee
    2nd - 41st - Sandin
    2nd - 43rd -Lundkvist
    1st - 2019

    Rangers picks

    1st - 26th - Kravtsov
    1st - 30th - Kaut
    2nd - 39th - Bokk
    2nd - 48th - Eggenberger

    To me, getting 3 firsts and 2 seconds is better then Dahlin alone. Especially since I think Dobson will be really good too.
     
  13. Gardner McKay

    Gardner McKay You had to be there

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    We have a better core (even after the sell off) than either of those franchises had at the time.

    If we get any pick in the top-3, you do what you're supposed to do - take the BPA unless a ridiculous offer comes your way to move the pick.

    If you're 8th, you do what you're supposed to do - take BPA unless a ridiculous offer comes your way to move the pick or you have struck a good deal to move up.
     
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    Gorton would never do that. You're forgetting that we already have 2 other 1st round picks and 2 2nd round picks. That would give us 4 1sts and 4 2nds, and it has already been widely speculated that Gorton won't actually select players with all of those picks, instead using some as currency to move up or make trades.

    If we get the 1st overall pick, we are going to draft Dahlin.
     
  15. Beacon

    Beacon Embrace the tank

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    Let's face it, the only reason people "feel" like we are about to win the lottery is that this is the first time we are getting a shot at it. The odds are 94% that we don't get Rasmus.
     
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    Machinehead Comparable to Jesper Fast

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    Edmonton would have a multi-Norris talent on defense and Gretzky at even strength at center. They can't possibly not be good. It would be by accident, but it would work.
     
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    We last won the cup in 94. Can't be a coincidence. It just can't be. A 6% chance to get him. Doug Lidster, also a defenseman, wore #6 in 94.

    The stars are aligning people.
     
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    White Plains Batman Faceoffs? Faceoffs!!

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    I'm not expecting Dahlin but it will be a nice surprise. I'll be more than thrilled of Svechnokov or Zadina/Boqvist are on this roster. And if it's Zadina and they draft Kaut....#CzechVoltron
     
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    Thirty One Safe is safe.

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    Lidster logged big minutes in Game 7--7 being the number of goals Dahlin scored for Frolunda this season.
     
  20. McRanger

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    Dahlin also wears #8, worn by Rangers legend Marek Malik who made his NHL debut in '94.
     
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    then we draft dahlin. Still searching for our star fwds tho.
     
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  22. Synergy27

    Synergy27 I only like it when it's dimed out.

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    The thing is, and I wish I had hard numbers to back this, filling seats is not that big of a component to the overall revenue equation. I mean, a sold out arena in Glendale would be good for the league, but not nearly as good from a financial perspective as a flagship franchise winning multiple Cups led by a superstar talent.

    Very curious to watch this play out.
     
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    Yeah for sure, just saying that Dahlin will become franchise altering when he can play 26-30 minutes per night playing a very high level of defensive and offensive hockey. It takes longer to get to that level for a D than it does for a center.

    So I wouldn’t expect him to have the same impact from day 1 as Crosby and McDavid had.
     
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    I agree 100 percent! I'd rather them pick a center than a D man for immediate impact. That's what this team needs.
     
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  25. TheTakedown

    TheTakedown Puck is Life

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    Especially with the Islanders being mediocre again, and their management being bunch of morons, the Rangers are the highest valued team in the league and have some of the highest ticket prices in the league. That's a big pull for the league
     

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