Speculation: What If the Rangers Win the Lottery?

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  1. Synergy27

    Synergy27 I only like it when it's dimed out.

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    So, I've been pushing pretty heavily the idea that the Rangers are going to win the draft lottery. Part of it is my own practicing the power of positive thinking, but there is another part of me that honestly believes that the league recognizes an opportunity in having a strong team, anchored by a superstar, in NYC. The whole conceding the season and sending a letter to the fans thing was just too strange to me and left me feeling something bigger might be brewing.

    Anyway, just curious on thoughts about just how franchise altering a lottery win will be. Is landing Dahlin in this draft going to set the team up to contend for the next decade, or would it simply be a nice little bump that gets the rebuild started off well? In other words, is this 2005 again?
     
  2. Lays

    Lays Vitaly Swagtsov

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    **** this thread title
    I got excited and then realized it’s not April 28th
     
  3. Irishguy42

    Irishguy42 Registered User Sponsor

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    OP pls I almost had a heart attack with the title
     
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  4. Rangers743

    Rangers743 Yare Yare Daze

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    Nice job jinxing us actually winning lol

    But yeah it definitely would be game-changing to land Dahlin. Heck even if we win the second pick and get Svechnikov that would also be game-changing
     
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    what makes you think that the league sees value in this? is it all the times they didn't rig the draft for us in the past?
     
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    Lays Vitaly Swagtsov

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    Anyway, Dahlin won’t fix us. We need a 1C and a better supporting cast, IF we do win the lottery, a few years down the road our team should hopefully look like this
    Kreider-Chytil-Zib
    Andersson-Hayes-Buch
    X-Howden-X/Ronning?
    Vesey-X(Fontaine?)-Fast

    Hajek/Rykov-Dahlin
    Skjei-Pionk
    Lindgren-ADA

    Shestyorkin
    Georgiev

    Disregard the lines
    Hopefully then the X’s can be filled in with future picks or maybe Virta/Barron pan out. Shatty/Zucc/Vladdy/Spooner gone and assuming Rykov/Lindgren/Howden/Chytil/Sharkboy/Hajek all pan out. Looks fun
     
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  7. Holden the Stick

    Holden the Stick Volveré a brillar con vos

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    I'd say "go straight to John Tavares's house with the Brink's truck of money" but I don't know, the cap situation isn't great. Think three years from now, we'd still have the Staal and Smith connection. Maybe Tavares is worth his money and the then-39 year old Lundqvist isn't, maybe it's the other way around.

    I'm sure they'd try to do something creative with one of the late first rounders if we get 1OA. Dump at least one of the Wonder Twins 2.0 if we want to go the Tavares or Karlsson route, package it with idk Namestnikov and DeAngelo for a core player if we don't.
     
  8. broadwayblue

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    Trade down for a mid 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder.
     
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    UAGoalieGuy Registered User

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    Getting Dahlin would be franchise altering. Rangers probably have 2 plans with the direction of the rebuild. 1 if they don't get the #1 O/A and the other if they do.

    What those plans might be I don't know. Don't fool yourselves, getting Dahlin would be a game changer.
     
  10. NewYorkNick

    NewYorkNick 1st Line Center Boo Synergy Nieves Sponsor

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    :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
  11. Go Away Staal

    Go Away Staal #tradezucc

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    I'd operate just as if they stayed at 8th.

    No need to go stupid just because you get Dahlin.
     
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    I’d be absolutely ecstatic if we got one of those top-3 picks. Especially when you consider the flexibility and options Gorton would have with the other 67 picks we have this draft.
     
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    So, you wouldn’t dismantle the team for EK, and throw all the money we have at JT after signing Kovalchuk...?

    You have no vision.

    We’re just about 7 big moves away from being a contender again, bruh. Easy Peazy.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Dahlin would be a big add. An almost sure bet No. 1 D who should win at least a couple-three-four Norris Trophies maybe even an MVP or two--though defenseman don't usually get that one. It would be a huge deal. It would be a really big deal to land Svechnikov too. The third lottery spot would be more like nice--either Zadina or Boqvist. They should be huge players too but I'm not sure there's a whole lot to differentiate them from Hughes, Wahlstrom, Tkachuk, Bouchard, Dobson--at least at this point in time.

    Bettman and the NHL never seemed to me to be big fans of the Rangers. As far as a fix being in if we won the lottery I would kind of doubt it. That said I'm sure there will be a hue and cry anyway. It would be more than worth it but be prepared. It would be rich to hear it from a Pens or a Devils fan.
     
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    Dahlin would speed up the process, but he wouldn’t change it. The team would still be best served in surrounding him with young talent that can assist him long-term and by further developing their depth.

    Finding vets will never be a problem for the team, with or without Dahlin.
     
  16. RangerBlues

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    It should be WHEN the Rangers win the lottery.
     
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    Machinehead Gorton is not new

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    If we get Svechnikov, I think we're in good shape.

    If we get Dahlin, we're winning a Cup. Dahlin is pretty much already a 1D on an ELC contract. He instantly fixes the defense in one move and our forward corps is great.

    Pretty much anyone competent (so not Montreal/Ottawa/Buffalo) turns Dahlin into a Championship. I dont' eve see Edmonton or Arizona missing with Dahlin.
     
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  18. Synergy27

    Synergy27 I only like it when it's dimed out.

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    I legitimately view this year as different. The Penguins, as much as I hate to admit it, needed Crosby. McDavid going to Edmonton was a joke, but understandable. Vegas is in a good position already. Toronto is healthy. The league is trying to expand again. NYC is important to that growth.

    Trust me, I have very little love for the NHL and their treatment of the Rangers, but I just feel like something is up this year.
     
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    DanielBrassard If it's not sophisticated, it's not Vigneault.

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    It would speed up the process tremendously. You almost have to speed it up before you have to pay Dahlin the money he's going to deserve if he reaches the level people believe he will.
     
  20. Brooklyn Rangers Fan

    Brooklyn Rangers Fan Change is good.

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    Man, I can't wait until the 28th...

    Not because I have any special feeling they have a good shot at one of the top 3, but just to be dealing from a position of certainty.
     
  21. Kovalev27

    Kovalev27 BEST IN THE WORLD

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    Would not surprise me to see the islanders get him. They are on the brink of disaster. Have 2 lottery picks. I could see it.
     
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    precisely. we are in a waiting game for another 12 days. and then we can breathe (or gasp) one way or other.
     
  23. Glen Sathers Cigar

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    The NHL isn't going to give the Rangers ****. The Rangers are the most valuable franchise in the league with or without being good. The NHL would definitely rather see Dahlin go to Arizona or the Islanders or to another team that struggles when they're not good.

    Just look at 2005, we were tied for the best odds to win Crosby and where did we end up in that lottery? Picking 16th! Had to trade up just to get Marc Staal at 12.
     
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    We can’t even host a ****ing Draft. Seriously
     
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    Yeah. That would not surprise me at all. Makes too much sense actually.
     

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