What happened to Michael Rasmussen ?

[jkutswings]

Aaaaaaand getting back to Rasmussen...

The kid is off to a great stretch, returning from injury. Should be interesting to see how his season progresses.

 

[jkutswings]

It's not worth the chance of stirring the pot to clear up the misunderstanding. Let's focus on the player.

 

[raymond23]

We were trying to pick a nickname for RAM and someone wanted to use some ignorant uneducated stereotype hoopla as an argument based on some random internet search he/she may have conducted. Very puzzling, indeed.

We still don't have an official nickname. So far there's 3 that I know of; Ras, Razzy and RAM. Not sure what his lockeroom peers call him.

You're reaching bud.

Back to Rasmussen, I'm hoping we go skill oriented this draft in an effort to surround Larkin and potentially Rasmussen with some skilled guys. And defense. Lots of skilled defense please.

 

[jkutswings]

You're reaching bud.

Back to Rasmussen, I'm hoping we go skill oriented this draft in an effort to surround Larkin and potentially Rasmussen with some skilled guys. And defense. Lots of skilled defense please.

Indeed. This draft has a chance to be a tremendous opportunity, particularly on defense.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

We need skill in this draft. A highly skilled winger would be sufficient.

Ras is a 2 way, hard to play against down low kind of guy.

 

[SirloinUB]

We need skill in this draft. A highly skilled winger would be sufficient.

Ras is a 2 way, hard to play against down low kind of guy.

Despite the naysayers desires Ras is a skilled hockey player.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Rasputin?

 

[Dotter]

We need skill in this draft. A highly skilled winger would be sufficient.

Ras is a 2 way, hard to play against down low kind of guy.

I hope he brings a mean physical edge. But I think he's good about not taking a lot of penalties.

 

[TatarTangle]

Despite the naysayers desires Ras is a skilled hockey player.

The scouts at HFBoards told me he's nothing but third or fourth line cannon fodder so I'll go with them.

 

[Henkka]

He will be the next Anders Lee and scores 40 goals per season from net-front. Who gives a shit about assists? Mantha and Larkin will collect them for future Rasmussen goals.

 

[jkutswings]

He will be the next Anders Lee and scores 40 goals per season from net-front. Who gives a **** about assists? Mantha and Larkin will collect them for future Rasmussen goals.

Go easy. Kindl and Smith were also fantastic prospects once.

Don't misunderstand me; Rasmussen is off to a better start this season than I expected, and I think he will probably be a good NHL player. But Tri City is a long long way from the real deal.

 

[BinCookin]

Go easy. Kindl and Smith were also fantastic prospects once.

Don't misunderstand me; Rasmussen is off to a better start this season than I expected, and I think he will probably be a good NHL player. But Tri City is a long long way from the real deal.

Rasmussen is a nobody to me until i see him start putting up NHL numbers. Agreed.

However it is nice to hope that he does well this year, even though that will NOt indicate if he will be a good NHLer one day (no matter if he does poorly this year, or well this year)

 

[Dotter]

Go easy. Kindl and Smith were also fantastic prospects once.

Don't misunderstand me; Rasmussen is off to a better start this season than I expected, and I think he will probably be a good NHL player. But Tri City is a long long way from the real deal.

And defensemen. Apples and oranges.

 

[jkutswings]

And defensemen. Apples and oranges.

Not really. Prospects at any position can flame out. If you really need an example as specific as a forward drafted by Detroit, though, look up Curtis Bowen or Kory Kocur. Both first rounders that didn't even get a cup of coffee in the NHL.

 

[Frk It]

Not really. Prospects at any position can flame out. If you really need an example as specific as a forward drafted by Detroit, though, look up Curtis Bowen or Kory Kocur. Both first rounders that didn't even get a cup of coffee in the NHL.

Defenseman are much harder to project, it's pretty proven for the most part. It's why they rarely go #1.

 

[jkutswings]

Defenseman are much harder to project, it's pretty proven for the most part. It's why they rarely go #1.

Agreed, but I wasn't comparing the bust rate. Just that WHL play is no guarantee.

 

[Dotter]

Not really. Prospects at any position can flame out. If you really need an example as specific as a forward drafted by Detroit, though, look up Curtis Bowen or Kory Kocur. Both first rounders that didn't even get a cup of coffee in the NHL.

I don't really want to go back to 1988 to look up some retired scout's drafted post- "Dead Wings Era", when Larkin and Mantha are two of the most recent examples found in the 1st round that are currently on the roster.

As Frk It said, defenseman are completely different animals to draft.

 

[jkutswings]

I don't really want to go back to 1988 to look up some retired scout drafted post- "Dead Wings Era", when Larkin and Mantha are two of the most recent examples found in the 1st round that are currently on the roster.

As Frk It said, defenseman are completely different animals to draft.

You're hung up on semantics.

Yes, defensemen bust more often. No argument there. But forwards aren't a guarantee, either.

I just looked back at the last several drafts, for any forwards taken at 8-10 overall (since this is in reference to Rasmussen at 9).

I'd say that 4 of the 9 players taken were definitely worth the investment. A couple more have been ok, but not top 10 material, and a couple have been outright busts.

Again, Ras is doing very well for where he's at. But WHL production - even for forwards - doesn't mean a guy's seat is already reserved for good NHL production. If it did, then nearly every forward ever taken at the top of the draft would go on to have a fine career.

 

[rhef3]

just for $hits and giggles jkutswings, out of those outright busts, how well did they do in college/minors ?

 

[jkutswings]

just for $hits and giggles jkutswings, out of those outright busts, how well did they do in college/minors ?

Good question, and worth looking up, but I'd be surprised if their stats were significantly lower (at least in North American leagues), considering that the 2017 class was considered relatively weak.

I'll have to follow up.

 

[SuperScript29]

I'm loving this pick as time goes, he's gonna be hard to play against.

 

[turkleton85]

I'm loving this pick as time goes, he's gonna be hard to play against.

i like him as well. If svechnikov ever puts it together again and becomes a solid NHL player, we might become a pretty tough team to play against (the forwards at least). But lets wait and see before pipedreaming...

 

[Hatter of the Beach]

And defensemen. Apples and oranges.

You must have not watched any FSND games from 2000-2008, otherwise you'd know even Kirk Maltby was a 50 goal scorer in juniors.

I don't think Ras will bust, and have grown to like the pick, but more "sure thing" prospects have busted

 

[Dotter]

You must have not watched any FSND games from 2000-2008, otherwise you'd know even Kirk Maltby was a 50 goal scorer in juniors.

I don't think Ras will bust, and have grown to like the pick, but more "sure thing" prospects have busted

What does a "sure thing" prospect look like? I haven't seen one drafted by Detroit yet.

 

[jkutswings]

What does a "sure thing" prospect look like? I haven't seen one drafted by Detroit yet.

Malkin, Crosby, Kane, McDavid, Matthews, etc. Guys that are a slam dunk to break into the NHL and immediately be very productive.

The ones that Detroit isn't interested in finishing low enough to have access to.