This board is filled with speculation of what we believe to be true. Our opinions differ but I thought maybe we could dedicate one thread to simple facts. Not that I think it will help resolve the dispute or sway anyone's opinion but it would be nice to deal with factual information rather than our own biased opinions. 1. Can we agree that unlike other pro sports in N.A. the NHL is mostly a gate driven league? Has anyone taken the time to put together total attendence figures along with revenue derived from ticket and luxury box sales? Which teams own their buildings and which ones lease? 2. Does anyone have a total list of operating expenses for a typical NHL team or all teams total for that matter? Bettman and Daley claim app.73% - 75% of all league revenue is paid out to player salaries alone. From another thread fromtherock posted "$77,856,100 is the highest team salary for the Detroit Red Wings. The lowest team salary belongs to the Nashville Predators at $21,932,500. The difference in the extremities is $55,923,600, 23 of the NHL teams do not even have a team salary over the difference in high-low. Players salaries totalled $1,332,014,890 last season, averaging $44,400,496 per team. 18/30 teams were under the average team salaries last season. I heard Richard Peddie of the Leafs yesterday say the Leafs/Raptors spend over 5 million a year just on arena maintenance. I would not have thought of that until I heard it. What about team travel for 60-80 days away from home, hotel, charter flights, per diem, player bonus money, signing bonus money, scouting staff travel and salaries, how many administrative staff on a typical team, arena lease or mortgage carrying costs, taxes, currency exchange, draft expenses for an entire teams staff, coaching staff, cars, gas, insurance for staff that get cars with their salaries, NHL execs-employee salary and office expenses, arena staff and security, on and on and on. 3. Will the NHL still have the ability to generate 2.1 billion when this thing is settled? Answers to any other questions which might be helpful in supporting the NHL's stand or if anyone can actually tell me what exactly the principal is that players and the NHLPA stand for and why exactly they are so dead set against a cap that works relatively well in other sports please enlighten me. I have never really heard a reasonable explanation of what this principal is. NHL players seem to be paid similar to pro players in other major sports but the NHL doesn't have the TV revenue to support it's pay stucture and that's the biggest reason I tend to take the owners side on this, unless someone can provide facts to the contrary.