What do ur leafs look like next year , if u were Lou

MR4

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If I was Dubas*** since he's taking over

Johnsson-Nylander-Kapanen
Marleau-Matthews-Marner
Leivo/Hyman-Kadri-Brown
Leivo/Hyman-Aaltonen-Whoever

Rielly-Dermott
Gardiner-Hainsey
Borgman-Zaitsev

Andersen-Pickard

In other words, pretty much what my post TD roster would've been since I would've sold UFAs
 

WTFMAN99

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Are there any parameters to this? If not then i'll get creative

Assuming the cap conservatively goes to 80M....

Brown, 2nd for Pysyk
Martin and Carrick after July 1st for a 4th
Leivo for a 3rd

Sign Tavares for 10M x7 years
Sign Nash for 6M 1 year
Re-sign Nylander 6M x7 years
Re-sign Marner 6M x7 years
Re-sign Matthews 11M x8 years
Re-sign Johnssson 950k 1-way 1 year
Re-sign Gauthier 850k 1-way 1 year
Sign Brodziak 1 year 1.25M OR Beagle 1 year 2M or 2 years 1.75M


Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Nash-Tavares-Kapanen
Johnsson-Beagle-Grundstrom
Leivo-Gauthier

Rielly-Pysyk
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Hainsey
Borgman

Andersen
McBackUp
 
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Apotheosis

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If I was Dubas*** since he's taking over

Johnsson-Nylander-Kapanen
Marleau-Matthews-Marner
Leivo/Hyman-Kadri-Brown
Leivo/Hyman-Aaltonen-Whoever

Rielly-Dermott
Gardiner-Hainsey
Borgman-Zaitsev

Andersen-Pickard

In other words, pretty much what my post TD roster would've been since I would've sold UFAs

This. This so much. Only thing is if Tavares is somehow signed, I would change it up a tad.
 

Schennanigans

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If I was Dubas*** since he's taking over

Johnsson-Nylander-Kapanen
Marleau-Matthews-Marner
Leivo/Hyman-Kadri-Brown
Leivo/Hyman-Aaltonen-Whoever

Rielly-Dermott
Gardiner-Hainsey
Borgman-Zaitsev

Andersen-Pickard

In other words, pretty much what my post TD roster would've been since I would've sold UFAs

The triple M. I like it. Could really give Marleau a huge boost he could use. Playing with two skilled guys like 34 and 16 will give anyone a boost.
 

MR4

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This. This so much. Only thing is if Tavares is somehow signed, I would change it up a tad.
If Tavares does come here I'd probably try to slot him as the LW on the Matthews-Marner line - JT probably wouldn't like being put on the wing at first but think that would become a Boston 1st line level of domination, Matthews & Tavares work really well along the boards and Marner would feel like he's back in the O with the space he'd have. Then dump Marleau somewhere for cap/roster space reasons and leave the rest of the lineup as is
 

Visnovsky

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There are a lot of possibilities this summer to do big moves, I'd do something like this.

Kapanen, Nielsen, 3rd '19 <-> Hamonic
Gardiner <-> Picks to whoever
Räsänen, Gauthier, Gardiner picks <-> O'Reilly (@ 6)

Sign Beagle (1yr, 1,2M)
Sign Pateryn (3yr, 2,25M)
Sign Johnsson (2yr, 1,15M)

Re-sign Nylander (7yr, 6M)

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Johnsson-O'Reilly-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Korshkov
x-Beagle-Brown

Rielly-Hamonic
Hainsey-Zaitsev
Dermott-Pateryn
(Borgman-Ozhiganov)

Andersen
Sparks

One can dream...
 

Americanadian

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Pateryn 3x3M, Komarov 2x1.5M, Nylander 8x6, Tavares 7x10M, Wagner 2x1M. Gardiner + TOR 1st 2018 for Zacha + NJ 1st 2018 (assuming NJ has higher pick). Aaltonen and Johnsson signed 2x0.85M. Tanev for Kapanen+Rasanen+2nd. Let Borgman and Liljegren get a full season together in the AHL before becoming our 3rd pair in 2019-20.

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Zacha-Tavares-Marner
Marleau-Kadri-Brown
Komarov-Wagner-Martin
Johnsson

Rielly-Tanev
Dermott-Pateryn
Hainsey-Zaitsev
Carrick

Andersen
McElhenney
 

Halla

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There are a lot of possibilities this summer to do big moves, I'd do something like this.

Kapanen, Nielsen, 3rd '19 <-> Hamonic
Gardiner <-> Picks to whoever
Räsänen, Gauthier, Gardiner picks <-> O'Reilly (@ 6)

Sign Beagle (1yr, 1,2M)
Sign Pateryn (3yr, 2,25M)
Sign Johnsson (2yr, 1,15M)

Re-sign Nylander (7yr, 6M)

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Johnsson-O'Reilly-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Korshkov
x-Beagle-Brown

Rielly-Hamonic
Hainsey-Zaitsev
Dermott-Pateryn
(Borgman-Ozhiganov)

Andersen
Sparks

One can dream...

Beagle isnt taking a 550,000 paycut to play for the leafs.
Rasanen+Gauthier + picks don't get you anywhere close to a retained ROR
the leafs, already weak at D, arent trading their 2nd best dman for picks
 

Halla

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2018 1st rd pick (26th OA) + 2019 2nd rd pick + Carrick to VAN for Tanev
Martin @2M to NYI for a 5th
Sign Beagle 2 years @ 1.95M/year

Hyman - Matthews - Brown
Marleau - Kadri - Marner
Johnsson - Nylander - Kapanen
Aaltonen - Beagle - Korshkov
*Gauthier/Leivo

Rielly - Tanev
Gardiner - Hainsey
Dermott - Zaitsev
*Borgman

Andersen
McEhlinney
 

IBeL34f

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Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Grundstrom - Tavares - Marner
Marleau - Kadri - Kapanen
Johnsson - Gauthier/Aaltonen - Brown
Leivo - Aaltonen/Gauthier

Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Carrick
Dermott - Zaitsev
Borgman

Andersen
Sparks

I do expect additional moves in real life than just one signing, but I would be pretty happy with signing Tavares and filling the rest of our open spots internally.
 

PromisedLand

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Marleau-Matthews-Hyman
Johnsson - Nylander - Marner (Shelter)
Brown-Kadri-Kapanen
Komarov/UFA-Goat/Alt-Leivo
Martin

Rielly Doughty
Gardiner Hainsey
Dermott Zaitsev
Carrick/Borgman

*notes: let’s face it Babcock is never gonna separate Hyman/Matthews. I would flip Hyman and Kapanen if I had a chance

-komarov is a good PKer; either resign him or look for UFA (Grabner?)

- we need to go get that 1D

Year after next it would look something like

Rielly Doughty
Gardiner Zaitsev
Dermott Liljegren
Carrick/Borgman

If we don’t resign Gards and trade him Dermott can move up and borgman-Liljegren can be third pairing
 

SprDaVE

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I won't go into details too much about this. Knowing Lamoriello if he's still here, the Leafs won't do a whole lot but I'll just pretend he took some crazy pills and goes for it.

-Sign Tavares to a 7 year 11M contract
-Gardiner for Tanev (indirectly) --Likely includes Leivo and prospects/picks in this
-Martin given away.
-Re-sign Komarov to a 2 year 2M cap hit deal

Marleau - Tavares - Marner
Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Johnsson - Kadri - Kapanen
Komarov - Aaltonen - Brown
Gauthier

In the mix: Grundstrom and Korshkov.

Rielly - Tanev
Dermott - Zaitsev
Hainsey - Carrick
Borgman - Holl
 
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lifelonghockeyfan

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The original question was for next year, don't know how Doughty gets put on posts.
Reality is for 2018/19, the Leafs only have 11m in UFA money, Just don't see that many splashes the Leafs can make. 2019/20 seems more likely.
Next year, the forwards . Hyman, Johnson, Marleau, Martin, Leivo. Matthews, Kadri, Aaltonen, Nylander, Marner, Brown, Kapanen. That's 12, If Nylander converts to centre, sure would make it easier for the Leafs to find wingers.
Grundstrom and Korshov might be NHLers at some time next year but maybe not in October.

Reilly, Gardiner, Dermot, Borgman, Zaitsev, Hainsey, Carrick? That Russian? Maybe use some UFA money for short term help.
 

MyBudJT

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To VAN: Gardiner, Carrick
To TOR: Tanev, 3rd 2020

Sign JT: 11x7
Sign Rutta: 3.5x2
Sign Beagle: 2x2

Sign Nylander: 6x6
Sign Kapanen: 1.5x2
Sign Johnsson: 1x0.9

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Leivo-Tavares-Kapanen
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
Johnsson-Beagle-Brown

Rielly-Tanev
Dermott-Zaitsev
Hainsey-Rutta

Andersen
McE


Depth:
F: Gauthier, Grundstrom, Korshkov, Aaltonen, Timashov, Bracco, Marchment, Moore
D: Borgman, Ozhiganov, Holl, Liljegren, Rosen, Nielsen
G: Sparks, Pickard
 

thewave

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Right now I am hoping we(they)...

1) sign JVR to 6x6m front loaded. No NMC
2) sign Nylander under a bridge deal
3) start negotiations with Gardiner for his next contract (6x6m)


Ideally...

Marleau Matthews Kapanen
JVR Nylander Brown
Leivo Kadri Marner
Johnsson Aaltonen Hyman
Goat

Explanation. Left handed C's score with Right handed snipers. Right handed C have an easier time finding a Left handed Sniper...

Matthews(L) -> Kapanen / Nylander / Marner
Nylander(R) -> JVR / Leivo / Marleau / Johnsson
Kadri(L) -> Marner / Brown / Kapanen
Bozak(R) JVR / Leivo / Marleau

This is why I believe that Babcock has crippled our team on purpose to keep numbers down... Think about it, Bozak is a righty, he feeds the left side MARNER never belonged here. Komarov has stone hands, he put him with Kadri who is a lefty. WRONG SIDE AGAIN. Proper.... Left handed Matthews with RW and Right handed Nylander but of course it will naturally work with Marner or Kapanen as well.
 

ToneDog

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Only way I see Leafs taking the next step to becoming a serious SC contender next year is to sign Tavares (I would use the same "Stamkos" sell job).

Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau- Tavares - Marner
UFA (Vanek/Maroon/Grabner) - Kadri - Kapanen
Grundstrom/Johnsson Aaltonen Brown
Leivo - Gauthier

I would try to sign Dehaan if there is a way to make him fit and/or possibly move Jake. What we cannot do is go with the same cast of characters on D again.

Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Carrick
Dermott - Zaitsev
Borgman
 

ShaneFalco

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I'm not going to guess who they'll bring in but the biggest needs are a 3/4th line C.
A d-man that can log a lot of minutes. I doubt a #1 or #2 guy is available however
The playoffs will tell more but I think they need some more size/grit on the wing.

I'm guessing Brown and Gardiner are moved to address these needs and possibly a few picks/prospects
Don't see them bringing Pleks back
Komarov will get an offer but won't like it and will bolt
JVR walks
Bozak re-signed (although I hope not)
Moore gonzo
 

thewave

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Only way I see Leafs taking the next step to becoming a serious SC contender next year is to sign Tavares (I would use the same "Stamkos" sell job).

Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Marleau- Tavares - Marner
UFA (Vanek/Maroon/Grabner) - Kadri - Kapanen
Grundstrom/Johnsson Aaltonen Brown
Leivo - Gauthier

I would try to sign Dehaan if there is a way to make him fit and/or possibly move Jake. What we cannot do is go with the same cast of characters on D again.

Rielly - Hainsey
Gardiner - Carrick
Dermott - Zaitsev
Borgman

So throw all money at forward position with no D? 10m JT is suicide the moment it's signed. Our D gets decimated come next round of Contracts.
 

Diamond Joe Quimby

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Tavares signed (8y / $68M)
Nylander, Marner, Nylander signed (total of ~$25M aav)

Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Johnsson - Tavares - Kapanen
Marleau - Kadri - Marner
Aaltonen - Gauthier - Brown
Martin

Rielly - Dermott
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Hainsey - Liljegren

Borgman - Carrick

Andy, McH

You mustn't be afraid to play your young players, darling.
 

ToneDog

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So throw all money at forward position with no D? 10m JT is suicide the moment it's signed. Our D gets decimated come next round of Contracts.

Who is throwing money at forward position and if signing a guaranteed superstar in his prime is suicide then we may as well raise the flag and ask for an expansion team. How does our D get decimated next round of contracts. It is clear to me that nobody on this D is worth more than Reilly. If Gards wants more than Reilly, move him. Sign DeHaan.
 

ToneDog

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Tavares signed (8y / $68M)
Nylander, Marner, Nylander signed (total of ~$25M aav)

Hyman - Matthews - Nylander
Johnsson - Tavares - Kapanen
Marleau - Kadri - Marner
Aaltonen - Gauthier - Brown
Martin

Rielly - Dermott
Gardiner - Zaitsev
Hainsey - Liljegren

Borgman - Carrick

Andy, McH

You mustn't be afraid to play your young players, darling.

I like your thinking except that I am not sure the Goat is an NHLer on a SC contender. Then again, with AM, JT and NK down the middle, the Goat would only be expected to play 8-10 minutes.
 

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Hyman Matthews Nylander
Kapanen Kadri Marner
Marleau Thornton Johnsson
Martin Plekanec Leivo/Komarov

Rielly Carlson
Gardiner Tanev
Dermott Carrick/Polak/Liljegren
 
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thewave

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Who is throwing money at forward position and if signing a guaranteed superstar in his prime is suicide then we may as well raise the flag and ask for an expansion team. How does our D get decimated next round of contracts. It is clear to me that nobody on this D is worth more than Reilly. If Gards wants more than Reilly, move him. Sign DeHaan.

You have about 50m for 6 Forwards most likely. You need another 7-8 and 80m cap to work with. Let's average those guys out to 2m each. 16m + 6m tenders = 22m + 50m = 72m not including Defense.

Matthews 12, JT 12, Marner 7.5, Nylander 7.5, Marleau 6.5, Kadri 4.5 (50M)

Are you planning on having 6 good players and a shell team for the rest?
 

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