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- Jun 8, 2012
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An interesting way of dismissing ~50 years of inherent anti-European bias among North American hockey observers, certainlySounds butt hurt to me.
An interesting way of dismissing ~50 years of inherent anti-European bias among North American hockey observers, certainlySounds butt hurt to me.
An interesting way of dismissing ~50 years of inherent anti-European bias among North American hockey observers, certainly
Unquestionably, but that wasn't really the point of that particular quote. Every draft sees Russian players selected with this mystical Russian Factor mentioned every time regardless of their actual background. It was brought up on this board in relation to Zadorov at the start of this season, even though he'd played in North America since his teens. If players playing in Russia know NHL teams are going to constantly doubt them because of where they come from, why wouldn't they feel as if they're constantly being judged negatively for it?Oh, come on. The dude was ushered back to Russia because he wasn't any good, not because of any inherent bias.
Unquestionably, but that wasn't really the point of that particular quote. Every draft sees Russian players selected with this mystical Russian Factor mentioned every time regardless of their actual background. It was brought up on this board in relation to Zadorov at the start of this season, even though he'd played in North America since his teens. If players playing in Russia know NHL teams are going to constantly doubt them because of where they come from, why wouldn't they feel as if they're constantly being judged negatively for it?
He wasn’t good, but he was likely promised a NHL spot and it just didn’t happen for long. Keep in mind that when he signed the Avs didn’t have Nemeth or Girard and that changed things.
Either way, I don’t think this is much of a loss. He didn’t look like an NHL player.
Go read any Russian's thread on the prospect board, you'll see it easily. Their theory is they get all the skill beat out of them by coming to NA and they fail here. One even blamed Kamenev's injury on coming over too early.I read somewhere (was it here?) that Russian fans get mad at Russian junior-age players who opt to play in NA to hone their game, like Svechnikov. Some have practically denounced him for doing so. Shvyryov will no doubt receive similar pressure.
Also, everyone remember when Malkin was bullied into signing a multiyear deal in the KHL and then was basically sneaked out of the country to begin his NHL career?
I get that the Twitter story Slava Malamud posted today has largely been denounced but there's no doubt that there's some super-shady stuff going on over there.
I think Russians have a legitimate gripe when it comes to skill/style of play differences. Go read Evegeny Kuznetsov's Player's Tribune article on when he first came to Washington and the literal shock he felt witnessing Alex Ovechkin play dump and chase hockey.
I'm not disagreeing. It's a legitimate gripe they have when coming from Russia, though. They have never played that style of hockey in their lives, and all of a sudden they have to or else they'll be stapled to the bench for mistakes.That is a big ice/small ice thing... and not so much about a preference towards dump and chase. With how tight the game is in NA, they HAVE to dump the puck and grind sometimes. Dancing around with the puck trying to carry it in can easily lead to turnovers and odd man rushes that lose games. These moments obviously still happen (and MacK is one of the best in the game at controlled zone entries), but they are difficult on small ice and they can't be pulled off every time. Spots have to be picked much better.
NHL app has Kamenev in the lineup on Saturday. I'm guessing they're just confused?
Thank God there is no 3v3 OT in the playoffs because sucking at it is a big understatement.Someone please tell me they're practicing 3 on 3 today
That guy is a complete clown. No one with half a brain functioning can come to such a conclusion. Not to mention that gloating over a kid getting injured is the lowest of the low. Completely brainwashed.Go read any Russian's thread on the prospect board, you'll see it easily. Their theory is they get all the skill beat out of them by coming to NA and they fail here. One even blamed Kamenev's injury on coming over too early.
Yotes been playing some good hockey. I wouldn't be shocked if we lost the way the Yotes have been going and our issues on the road. Nobody should be shocked if we lose to them.I was going to write that Arizona scares me but it's more Colorado that scares me a bit at the moment. Wildly inconsistent.
Yotes been playing some good hockey. I wouldn't be shocked if we lost the way the Yotes have been going and our issues on the road. Nobody should be shocked if we lose to them.
If there is a god ... EJ will be practicing ... in Red ... today.
Doesn't mean that there is a god.