Series Talk: WCSF Vancouver Canucks vs Edmonton Oilers. (Series tied 3-3)

[Leonardo87]

Vancouver Canucks vs Edmonton Oilers
WCSF

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[MS]

At the end of the day, it's a penalty. We can argue semantics on it being called a Charging penalty, but it's still a pretty obvious call using Interference, Elbowing, Hit to the head, a number of other names. You can't just jump into a hit, or if you're going to do it, make it less obvious.

It wasn't a penalty.

And it isn't interference to brace yourself to be hit when you're an eligible target. What absolute nonsense.

Of the borderline hits in this series (by either team), that isn't even in the top 50 in terms of 'should be a penalty'.

 

[Bizzare]

At the end of the day, it's a penalty. We can argue semantics on it being called a Charging penalty, but it's still a pretty obvious call using Interference, Elbowing, Hit to the head, a number of other names. You can't just jump into a hit, or if you're going to do it, make it less obvious.

yikes, this is getting worse. There is no elbow, there is no interference unless you think Petey needs to move out of Foegeles way… there might be some head contact because Foegele runs into him.

https://youtu.be/tVQziID6KaU?si=O6TbYxWIXAdQC3rD

 

[BERTUZZZZi]

 

[Dust]

It wasn't a penalty.

And it isn't interference to brace yourself to be hit when you're an eligible target. What absolute nonsense.

Of the borderline hits in this series (by either team), that isn't even in the top 50 in terms of 'should be a penalty'.

Clearly it was

Just like you can't stick your elbow out to brace yourself, you can't jump into the hit so you contact them up high. It's not something you see often, but I can see why they were quick to call it.

 

[JAK]

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. It's not something you see often, but I can see why they were quick to call it.

It was tied 2-2 and the referees needed to make some calls on the Canucks because the Canucks had 2 power plays in the second?

 

[DFAC]

Edmonton will have to pay the refs more if they want to win Game 6 - Game 5 was one of the worst reffed games I've ever seen.

 

[MS]

Clearly it was

Just like you can't stick your elbow out to brace yourself, you can't jump into the hit so you contact them up high. It's not something you see often, but I can see why they were quick to call it.

He didn't hit him high. There was nothing there could would qualify as a 'hit to the head' penalty.

98% of neutrals, former NHL refs, virtually every TV commentator thinks this was a terrible call. But of course Oiler fans disagree.

Again : not a penalty by how the rule is written, not a penalty by how the rule has ever been interpreted. And this goes doubly so in a 2-2 playoff game where countless hits in the series have been far more penalty-worthy.

 

[JAK]

Edmonton will have to pay the refs more if they want to win Game 6 - Game 5 was one of the worst reffed games I've ever seen.

Wait, what are the Oilers fans' complaint about officiating?

 

[Bizzare]

EP40 Charging Penalty

Enough back and forth about this in the Vancouver Edmonton thread… may as well make a poll.

forums.hfboards.com

Made a poll, might make sense to declutter this thread from the topic anyways.

 

[Dust]

He didn't hit him high. There was nothing there could would qualify as a 'hit to the head' penalty.

98% of neutrals, former NHL refs, virtually every TV commentator thinks this was a terrible call. But of course Oiler fans disagree.

Again : not a penalty by how the rule is written, not a penalty by how the rule has ever been interpreted. And this goes doubly so in a 2-2 playoff game where countless hits in the series have been far more penalty-worthy.

Tim "It wasn't much but I wanted to get something" Peel thinks it was a good call, from a former ref perspective. I'm not sure if that works for or against the debate.

Why is everyone so up in arms over this call? He jumped into a reverse hit instead of doing the normal thing that 99% of players would have done. He got a penalty for it. Nobody scored on the PP, Vancouver won the game.

 

[Nuck Bonino]

You can certainly tell who won the game last night just by doing a scan of who is posting. You wouldn't be showing your face in here for 2 days had they lost.

Thats the case for every fanbase, we didnt see Oiler fans on the main boards after games 1 and 3 and certainly not seeing them now after game 5

 

[jackjohnson]

I’m not looking to “win”. I am stating why I understand the call and think it was deserved.

Counterpoint, show me all the charging penalties and that this has never happened. You rightfully wont, it’s a waste of time as would it be for me to look through every charge to find an exact instance to this. Your asking for something I and no other person would do.

I’ve already addressed the “skating into” point you are trying to make. You can skate into a player, you cannot jump into them. He meant to hit the player and he jumped, I’ve said this multiple times yet keep getting mid-quoted.

No he didnt mean to hit the player, he meant to protect and brace himself against a hit. Didnt even look like a typical reverse hit where you move into the hitter. But i mean you call this but let go of so many other legit penalties is dumb. Again, this should not have been a penalty. By this sandards, they would have a million penalties in this series by now for every jump or fart a player makes.

 

[Avsfan1921]

No he didnt mean to hit the player, he meant to protect and brace himself against a hit. Didnt even look like a typical reverse hit where you move into the hitter. But i mean you call this but let go of so many other legit penalties is dumb. Again, this should not have been a penalty. By this sandards, they would have a million penalties in this series by now for every jump or fart a player makes.

I’ve gone to the poll thread ahould you want to discuss further

 

[Ace of Hades]

Thats the case for every fanbase, we didnt see Oiler fans on the main boards after games 1 and 3 and certainly not seeing them now after game 5

He's pro Oilers so he's going to ignore that. It's been so obvious for a while.

 

[Three On Zero]

 

[Mr Positive]

He didn't hit him high. There was nothing there could would qualify as a 'hit to the head' penalty.

98% of neutrals, former NHL refs, virtually every TV commentator thinks this was a terrible call. But of course Oiler fans disagree.

Again : not a penalty by how the rule is written, not a penalty by how the rule has ever been interpreted. And this goes doubly so in a 2-2 playoff game where countless hits in the series have been far more penalty-worthy.

There have been questionable calls both ways. The problem with reffing in the NHL is that it is so subjective. There are so many unwritten rules about it. Sometimes a call is a call. Sometimes it is a makeup call. Sometimes it's an evening up call. There are nuances all over it too.

I don't understand this narrative that refs are favoring the Oilers. That would be a first. I'm not going to nitpick any specific calls because it's just a wild rabbit hole to get into

 

[NailsHoglander]

Edmonton will have to pay the refs more if they want to win Game 6 - Game 5 was one of the worst reffed games I've ever seen.

Sutherland is on his way to Edmonton right now. First class tickets, red carpet and all.

 

[JAK]

Sutherland is on his way to Edmonton right now. First class tickets, red carpet and all.

He's doing the Bruins game.

This is why I want that game to go to 10 OTs

 

[Three On Zero]

He stays on his feet and leans in for a nice reverse hit and he's perfectly fine, Foegele still goes tumbling, and everyone on here can quit all the whining about the penalty for a little while.

You can certainly tell who won the game last night just by doing a scan of who is posting. You wouldn't be showing your face in here for 2 days had they lost.

Outside of the regulars that’s been the case for both fan bases after a loss

 

[Dust]

He's pro Oilers so he's going to ignore that. It's been so obvious for a while.

Nah I've acknowledged it plenty over the course of the series. My comment was mostly targeted at the worst offender in here. Plenty of good folks to talk hockey with.

 

[Ace of Hades]

Nah I've acknowledged it plenty over the course of the series. My comment was mostly targeted at the worst offender in here. Plenty of good folks to talk hockey with.

They are plenty of offenders on the other side of the spectrum. You would be better off applying what you originally wrote to both sides.

Anyway enough about fanbases. That doesn't turn well.

Tomorrow will be exciting.

Outside of the regulars that’s been the case for both fan bases after a loss

Exactly.

 

[Dust]

They are plenty of offenders on the other side of the spectrum. You would be better off applying what you originally wrote to both sides.

Anyway enough about fanbases. That doesn't turn well.

Tomorrow will be exciting.


Exactly.

Don't worry I'll be here to chide them after game 6 when this series gets pushed to it's inevitable game 7

 

[jackjohnson]

Bouchard's reaction on the ice for that last minute Game winner by Miller

 

[JAK]

Bouchard's reaction on the ice for that last minute Game winner by Miller

McDavid leaves his man to stand in no man's land.

Hyman stood by the blueline hoping for a possession change and a chance to score game winner the other way, then was late to the play when he realizes Oilers couldn't win the puck.

 

[jackjohnson]

McDavid leaves his man to stand in no man's land.

Hyman stood by the blueline hoping for a possession change and a chance to score game winner the other way, then was late to the play when he realizes Oilers couldn't win the puck.

Doesnt change the fact that Bouchard would still have the same reaction