Series Talk: WCSF Vancouver Canucks vs Edmonton Oilers. (Series tied 3-3)

[Leonardo87]

Vancouver Canucks vs Edmonton Oilers
WCSF

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[Raistlin]

Soucy's been getting destroyed 5v5 this series, scoring chances at 5v5 are 21-7 for Edmonton with him on the ice. The real punishment would be forcing Vancouver to play him more.

and Cole in the last 5 mins.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Not sure. Yesterday Tocchet said he’s taking shots now. Supposed to be ready by game 5 and seems on track.
Ideally if Silovs can keep this up you hold Demko out until next series.

Silovs has done an admirable job. Honestly even if Demko is ready they might be better off continuing to play Silovs instead of throwing Demko in cold coming off an injury.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

ESPN's Canucks vs Oilers pre-series projections.

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Only 1 canucks prediction woah.

My money for my hockey pool is on the Oilers but I gotta say these Canucks are playing some great entertaining hockey so it will be a very big upset if the Oilers lose.

 

[Angry Little Elf]

Pre-season consensus was that the 2024 SCF would be Oilers v. Devils.

Which pretty much tells you the value of the pre-season consensus.

Greg Wyshinski thought Toronto would be in the finals

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Only 1 canucks prediction woah.

My money for my hockey pool is on the Oilers but I gotta say these Canucks are playing some great entertaining hockey so it will be a very big upset if the Oilers lose.

I guessed Canucks in 7 in the poll, but Oilers would have been just as good of a guess I think. I figure it's still a toss-up. That will change of course if the Canucks leave Edmonton with two wins.

 

[McFlyingV]

Oilers don't have any guys that can stand up to Zadorov. I remember people saying how Kane and Perry were gonna be physical... well they are tiny compared to Big Z and Soucy. We also have a chaos Giraffe.

6'8
6'6
6'5

Are we talking physical play or fights? Zadorov has lost plenty of fights over his career. Oleksiak, Benn, McQuaid to name a few. Even Luke Schenn worked him. He's big, but for his size he's actually a pretty mediocre fighter. I think Nurse or Kane would give him a pretty good fight.

Physical play you're right no one is going to flatten him. But there's plenty of guys like Hughes and Pete to target who can't really take a hit. Hughes is much harder to catch though with those speedy little legs

 

[Canucks LB]

Getting huge attention now, I do absolutely love they called out the McDavid slash, which is more than most media have been doing so far, and this is ESPN.

Pat loves hockey tho

 

[Czechboy]

2-1.. still say 7 games. Been a good series so far.

 

[McFlyingV]

Getting huge attention now, I do absolutely love they called out the McDavid slash, which is more than most media have been doing so far, and this is ESPN.

Pat loves hockey tho

Those guys are good entertainment.

Really not sure why people keep using the slash as justification though. Soucy shoved him first and slashed him back after McDavid retaliated to the shove with a slash. The cross check was unnecessary at that point even if he didn't mean to get him in the face.

 

[Chairman Maouth]

Silovs has done an admirable job. Honestly even if Demko is ready they might be better off continuing to play Silovs instead of throwing Demko in cold coming off an injury.

Such a tough call to make. My understanding is that Tocchet leaves calls like that up to Ian Clark.

 

[CornKicker]

Getting huge attention now, I do absolutely love they called out the McDavid slash, which is more than most media have been doing so far, and this is ESPN.

Pat loves hockey tho

pat loves anything that is drama, hes so good for every sport. his prediction for the CFB national title game was so awesome

 

[Ezekial]

Got removed from the thread is more like it.

You bring up one event from the past....
Forced breather is still a breather. Was time for bed anyway.

 

[bossram]

Those guys are good entertainment.

Really not sure why people keep using the slash as justification though. Soucy shoved him first and slashed him back after McDavid retaliated to the shove with a slash. The cross check was unnecessary at that point even if he didn't mean to get him in the face.

The initial shove was absolutely nothing. Happens 100x per game and in every single scrum.

McBabys*** escalates with the baseball swing and doesn't want to take the heat for stirring up the kitchen. His problem.

Now the Oilers whine to the league and the Canucks get a sussy when the DOPS has let let literally every other infraction (many far dirtier) go throughout this playoffs.

 

[Donuts]

Oilers need all the help they can get

Refs + nhl/ bettman to the rescue but still not gonna be enough

Canucks in 5 or 6

 

[MikeK]

EDM better hope the league steps in and puts the bad bully Canucks team in their place. They need game 4 like it's game 7. Lose to go down 3-1 and it's pretty much lights out.

 

[nturn06]

Out of curiosity, are you suggesting that Soucy was attempting to cross check McDavid in the face?

I've watched the video a multitude of times, and I just don't see how someone could support that. You can make a case that Soucy should always be in control of his actions, or that he should pay for it despite it being an accident, etc. But in reviewing the action, the intent seems to be that he was trying to cross check him in the chest..

With that said, players get suspended for accidental contact with the head all of the time. Most hits to the head are not on purpose, they often result from a player reaching for a puck and lowering their head, or turning their body in some way, and the angle of the hit changes in such a way that contact is made with the player's head. The league still considers them to be acts worthy of suspension. But I don't know, this just feels different to me then that... You can call it a bias if you want, but I see the cross check to the face as more of an unfortunate accident that involved the actions of three players (Zadorov, Soucy, McDavid) in an after the whistle scrum. If it happened in game I definitely see it as a penalty, but I don't think I see it as a suspension.

No...But what we are always told is that players always need to be responsable for their sticks.

Zack Kassian didn't attempt to break Gagner's jaw with his stick, he was just careless. Yet, if I remember right, he was suspended for some time.

 

[Artemi Panarin]

EDM better hope the league steps in and puts the bad bully Canucks team in their place. They need game 4 like it's game 7. Lose to go down 3-1 and it's pretty much lights out.

Don't worry, they believe this guy strikes fear in the hearts of their enemies:

 

[Bankerguy]

Edmonton better get used to seeing Silovs.

once Demko has run his course, Silov's will be the go-to starter.
he's only 23 years old which is really young for a goalie.
so, i guess the 26/27 season will be when Demko is a UFA and Silovs will be 2 - 3 years more experienced than he has now.... he'll have more time watching and learning from behind Demko and working with Ian Clarke.
Big decisions, later problem i guess.

 

[PuckG]

Don't worry, they believe this guy strikes fear in the hearts of their enemies:

That’s not his role anymore. He’s a veteran who tries to stop us from taking dumb penalties and then we don’t listen anyways.

 

[Bizzare]

You bring up one event from the past....
Forced breather is still a breather. Was time for bed anyway.

Was a full on meltdown

 

[McFlyingV]

The initial shove was absolutely nothing. Happens 100x per game and in every single scrum.

McBabys*** escalates with the baseball swing and doesn't want to take the heat for stirring up the kitchen. His problem.

Now the Oilers whine to the league and the Canucks get a sussy when the DOPS has let let literally every other infraction (many far dirtier) go throughout this playoffs.

Yeah this take isn't rooted anywhere in reality. The slash back from Soucy was almost identical to McDavid's slash and McDavid has already disengaged from Soucy at that point.

The last part of your post is just some next level conspiracy shit lol.

 

[Artemi Panarin]

That’s not his role anymore. He’s a veteran who tries to stop us from taking dumb penalties and then we don’t listen anyways.

It was pretty funny when Bieksa had to point out to the panel what actually happened regarding this

 

[nturn06]

Wait, are you saying a "shove" warrants a two-handed slash?

What I am saying is that this entire myth that McD started all that scrum may not be more than a myth...

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Your posts about the refs last night were legendary. Bravo.

I've never seen someone ratio'd so hard with the laugh reaction

 

[sting101]

Soucy's been getting destroyed 5v5 this series, scoring chances at 5v5 are 21-7 for Edmonton with him on the ice. The real punishment would be forcing Vancouver to play him more.

i dont think you understand what their role is. It's to bend not break and protect the back door and front of the net while delivering as much punishment as possible which has pretty much other than the breakaway goal in game 2 been an utter success. The mistake would be to try and out punch that line up ice and then get torched in transition.

Tocchet is schooling your coach right now. I would be upset about that if i was an Oiler fan. Playing the 5 man unit 30 minutes at full attack mode is going to burn them out and you could see it at the end of last game. It will take a superhuman effort at this stage (which is possible given it's LD and CM) to not get wiped out by the Canucks depth.