News Article: Video games a growing concern for Canadiens' top scout Trevor Timmins

[Habs Halifax]

Video games where you play it all night and don't get body and mental rest is the concern. He clearly addressed this and said he has no problem with video games. The addiction to it and how it impacts life would be the concern of Timmins.

 

[habsfan92]

If a prospect was playing video games all night, would his draft ranking be affected because of the effect on his on ice play? He would have no energy & would make a lot of mental errors, and probably not be drafted. So, not an issue.
Although I have to say that TT has the best job, get lucky once & you look great for years. If you don't draft anyone of significance, hey it's a crap shoot. Can't be blamed, the GM made us take him (even though you ranked him that high)/it's a gamble, etc... That must be why he is always smiling, because it can't be because of his selected prospect pool.

 

[ngc_5128]

I have no idea why he brought up Hemsky because it doesn't help his case at all. Ales was a very successful young hockey player, he just got injured one too many times, but he was a good draft pick.
So really...no idea.

My issue here is exactly what he illustrated. I do not want this organization to pass up on a player because they feel he spends too much time on video games.
We have no way of knowing what "too much" is according to them, Timmins doesn't even precise it himself.
What he says is when they read video games as a hobby, it's a flag. To me, that's just silly.

Maybe Timmins meant that they use this as a follow up and if player says he spent 5h a night on a game, then that's an issue. But that's not what he is quoted as saying.
I am sticking to what was brought up in this article. I will not speculate about what he meant.

The only case mentioning Hemsky makes is that scouts have been concerned about 'too much' video gaming for much longer than the last year or two. He didn't say that Hemsky wasn't a successful young hockey player, or even imply that he wasn't picked for playing too many video games. It was an example of something old being new again.

He does quantify how much is too much, since the rest of his sentence says "not getting enough rest, recuperation and that sort of thing". I have zero issues with generalizing like that since every player's 'too much' will be different.

I would think that point of getting players to fill out a personal profile during their seasons is that it acts as stepping stone for organizations to find things out about the players that comes from them, and not their coaches, teammates, or other scouts. If those answers aren't used as a foundation to follow up further in areas they want more information about, why even bother doing them?

I think we can both agree that the biggest problem with this 'article' is that it sucks. It's a transcript of 45 seconds of a 21 minute media scrum.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

i bet timmins is talking about beregevin

whos playing nhl 2018 all nights to find the dumbest barginbin trades he can make

 

[Laurentide]

Any hobby or habit, taken to the extreme, is bad. Video game is just as good/bad as anything else.

One could argue that pro athletes are people who became that good because they took playing their particular sport to an unhealthy extreme.

 

[isthatso]

One could argue that pro athletes are people who became that good because they took playing their particular sport to an unhealthy extreme.

Check. Mate.

But it is for our grand entertainment...

I mean, take Crosby as an example... hockey before health and what, no girlfriend for years while under Lemieux's protection.

I don't know him personally, but he looks like he has a hockey addiction, which led him to ignore basic needs of a human. But that is widely accepted because he generates tons of revenues.

Some praise players for coming back after life altering injuries. Warriors. Gladiators more like it.

They are not necessarily stupid or ill advised. They are addicted. Plus, money.

A gambler with some "talent" is a world poker champion. He sure can be addicted to it, while being skillful at it.

 

[MtlBoxFan]

Basically, it's not video games, it's lack of sleep that is the real issue.

 

[Cole Caulifield]

can we get a test developed that we can use before we hire management???

If they say they will make a player a better human being without having ever spoken to them... they fail the test.

 

[Kriss E]

The only case mentioning Hemsky makes is that scouts have been concerned about 'too much' video gaming for much longer than the last year or two. He didn't say that Hemsky wasn't a successful young hockey player, or even imply that he wasn't picked for playing too many video games. It was an example of something old being new again.

Again, not sure how that helps his point. It was a concern back then, like for Hemsky.
Well Hemsky turned out to have a pretty good career, so ya...your concerns were proven false. Cool.

He does quantify how much is too much, since the rest of his sentence says "not getting enough rest, recuperation and that sort of thing". I have zero issues with generalizing like that since every player's 'too much' will be different.

That is not quantified. It's very subjective as you pointed out. I used to watch porn till 2-3am back in those days. I was definitely addicted to that. I had no problem playing 4-5h of hockey the next day.

I would think that point of getting players to fill out a personal profile during their seasons is that it acts as stepping stone for organizations to find things out about the players that comes from them, and not their coaches, teammates, or other scouts. If those answers aren't used as a foundation to follow up further in areas they want more information about, why even bother doing them?

I don't care about this. Make them fill up a 40 page questionnaire for all I care.
My issue is with how they think ''gaming'' as a hobby is a flag. To me that shows insight into how this organization thinks and I don't like it.

I think we can both agree that the biggest problem with this 'article' is that it sucks. It's a transcript of 45 seconds of a 21 minute media scrum.

Sure.

 

[NORiculous]

There is nothing alarming about it.

Having a flag doesn't mean the thing itself is bad, it just means you have to look into it to see if there is a problem. There are addictions to games, is all.

For all we know he could have said that just because he knows there is a player in the draft that does play games a little more then normal but he thinks its under control but he wants other teams to freak out about it so the player slips to one of his picks.

 

[Kriss E]

Having a flag doesn't mean the thing itself is bad, it just means you have to look into it to see if there is a problem. There are addictions to games, is all.

For all we know he could have said that just because he knows there is a player in the draft that does play games a little more then normal but he thinks its under control but he wants other teams to freak out about it so the player slips to one of his picks.

Sure...it's some kind of special strategy..could be the case. Doubt it.
I think it's just another example of this organization having different priorities.

All I want to hear from Timmins about drafting is how they are focusing on talent.
Telling me about how kids play video games and they need to investigate this....

 

[NORiculous]

Sure...it's some kind of special strategy..could be the case. Doubt it.
I think it's just another example of this organization having different priorities.

All I want to hear from Timmins about drafting is how they are focusing on talent.
Telling me about how kids play video games and they need to investigate this....

Its ok if you like playing video games.

 

[Habaneros]

Basically, it's not video games, it's lack of sleep that is the real issue.

if someone could invent playing video games while sleeping ,this problem would be solved...

 

[CHwest]

I don't understand how some one so devoid of character can be so obsessed with it. These are kids, very few will show any discernable signs of CHARACTER. I'm sure lots of then are good kids and with the proper guidance can become character people. Talent on the other hand cannot be developed, it can be nurtured but not developed. Draft for talent, unless the player is a real oddball.

 

[ECWHSWI]

Its ok if you like playing video games.

not if you're a hockey player though apparently, red flag.