Prospect Info: Vancouver Canucks 2016 Top 25 Prospects - #17

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POLL #16 (67 total votes)
Mike Zalewski - 35 votes
Dmitri Zhukenov - 10 votes
Lukas Jasek - 7 votes
Jakob Stukel - 5 votes
Michael Garteig - 4 votes
Tom Nilsson - 2 votes
Borna Rendulic - 2 votes
Michael Carcone - 2 votes

Rank | Player | POS | 2015/16 Team | HT | WT | DOB | Drafted OA | 2015 Rank | Poll%
1|Brock Boeser|RW|Univ. of North Dakota (NCAA)|6.01|192|Feb 25 1997|23rd (2015)|3 (↑2)| 50.30%
2|Olli Juolevi|D|London (OHL)|6.03|179|May 5 1998|5th (2016)|NR| 61.90%
3|Thatcher Demko|G|Boston College (NCAA)|6.04|192|Dec 8 1995|36th (2014)|4 (↑1)| 57.28%
4|Jake Virtanen|RW|Vancouver (NHL)|6.01|208|Aug 17 1996|6th (2014)|1 (↓3)| 90.74%
5|Nikita Tryamkin|D|Avtomobilist Yekaterinburg (KHL)|6.08|240|Aug 30 1994|66th (2014)|17 (↑12)| 66.67%
6|Brendan Gaunce|C/LW|Utica (AHL)/Vancouver (NHL)|6.02|207|Mar 25 1994|26th (2012)|7 (↑1)| 43.75%
7|Jordan Subban|D|Utica (AHL)|5.09|185|Mar 3 1995|115th (2013)|12 (↑5)| 48.51%
8|Troy Stecher|D|Univ. of North Dakota (NCAA)|5.11|192|Apr 7 1994|College FA (2016)|NR| 69.07%
9|Guillaume Brisebois|D|Acadie-Bathurst (QMJHL)|6.02|174|Jul 21 1997|66th (2015)|13 (↑4)| 52.88%
10|Adam Gaudette|C|Northeastern (NCAA)|6.01|170|Oct 3 1996|149th (2015)|NR| 28.85%
11|Andrey Pedan|D|Utica (AHL)/Vancouver (NHL)|6.05|213|Jul 3 1993|63rd (2011)|15 (↑4)| 30.59%
12|Cole Cassels|C|Utica (AHL)|6.00|180|May 4 1995|85th (2013)|5 (↓7)| 32.58%
13|Tate Olson|D|Prince George (WHL)|6.02|185|Mar 21 1997|210th (2015)|NR| 53.76% (tiebreaker)
14|William Lockwood|RW|USNTDP (USHL)|5.11|172|Jun 20 1998|64th (2016)|NR| 53.16%
15|Cole Candella|D|Hamilton (OHL)|6.01|190|Feb 13 1998|140th (2016)|NR| 37.84%
16|Mike Zalewski|LW|Utica (AHL)|6.02|205|Aug 18 1992|Free Agent (2014)|NR| 52.24%

Added - Carl Neill

Added Neill because... well, I inexplicably forgot to add him before. Decent prospect. Carry on.
 

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I'm going with... well, our 2016 7th round pick Brett McKenzie! Sounds ridiculous, but I thought McKenzie was a 4th rounder at least in 2015 and he went undrafted.

McKenzie plays under a defence first coach in Stan Butler, they don't play run and gun hockey, look at the players they've developed, two-way guys who don't have a ton of points because they aren't fed big minutes and top-heavy. McKenzie plays 200 ft, he has size at 6'2, he plays in all corners of the ice, and gritty. Sometimes you'd think a guy that has a pretty good frame and drafted in the late round has skating issues, McKenzie doesn't. He's a heavy, strong skater with good speed. Hard shot as well and good hockey sense.

I just like him more than Zhukenov and Jasek. They are skilled players, but I just think McKenzie checks a lot more boxes than these 2.
 

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I'm going with... well, our 2016 7th round pick Brett McKenzie! Sounds ridiculous, but I thought McKenzie was a 4th rounder at least in 2015 and he went undrafted.

McKenzie plays under a defence first coach in Stan Butler, they don't play run and gun hockey, look at the players they've developed, two-way guys who don't have a ton of points because they aren't fed big minutes and top-heavy. McKenzie plays 200 ft, he has size at 6'2, he plays in all corners of the ice, and gritty. Sometimes you'd think a guy that has a pretty good frame and drafted in the late round has skating issues, McKenzie doesn't. He's a heavy, strong skater with good speed. Hard shot as well and good hockey sense.

I just like him more than Zhukenov and Jasek. They are skilled players, but I just think McKenzie checks a lot more boxes than these 2.

They had a player with 98 points on their team this season.

McKenzie over a late round pick with another year of good development is a terrible choice.
 

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They had a player with 98 points on their team this season.

McKenzie over a late round pick with another year of good development is a terrible choice.
Amadio was a '96 and he wasn't overplayed. He earned the trust of Stan Butler through the 4 years he was there and worked his way up onto the first line. Look at the Knights' trio, they were overplayed, out on the ice every 3rd shift and out on the ice for half the game. There's teams like Windsor, Sarnia that overplay their top players in order to win games and the bottom half of their team barely get more than 5-10 points.

Who is that late round with pick a good year of development?
 

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I'm going with... well, our 2016 7th round pick Brett McKenzie! Sounds ridiculous, but I thought McKenzie was a 4th rounder at least in 2015 and he went undrafted.

McKenzie plays under a defence first coach in Stan Butler, they don't play run and gun hockey, look at the players they've developed, two-way guys who don't have a ton of points because they aren't fed big minutes and top-heavy. McKenzie plays 200 ft, he has size at 6'2, he plays in all corners of the ice, and gritty. Sometimes you'd think a guy that has a pretty good frame and drafted in the late round has skating issues, McKenzie doesn't. He's a heavy, strong skater with good speed. Hard shot as well and good hockey sense.

I just like him more than Zhukenov and Jasek. They are skilled players, but I just think McKenzie checks a lot more boxes than these 2.

Amadio was a '96 and he wasn't overplayed. He earned the trust of Stan Butler through the 4 years he was there and worked his way up onto the first line. Look at the Knights' trio, they were overplayed, out on the ice every 3rd shift and out on the ice for half the game. There's teams like Windsor, Sarnia that overplay their top players in order to win games and the bottom half of their team barely get more than 5-10 points.

Read what you wrote again. You clearly said that players that play for Butler don't put up a ton of points. It's inaccurate.

Who is that late round with pick a good year of development?

Carl Neill put up almost as many points as a defenseman… I would go with him or Zhukenov.
 

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Carcone here by a mile- his numbers are too good to ignore and he was coveted by several teams including flavour of the month Florida.

Stukel next.
 

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Read what you wrote again. You clearly said that players that play for Butler don't put up a ton of points. It's inaccurate.



Carl Neill put up almost as many points as a defenseman… I would go with him or Zhukenov.
You have to go all the way back to 2008-09 to a player having more than 80 points on Stan Butler's Battalion's. Amadio is an excellent prospect.

The point is he is a coach that doesn't overplay his top players to put up big points, he uses a team mentality in a junior league. Which is a reason McKenzie doesn't have a ton of points. It's accurate.

Well, sure if you look at points but Neill has significant flaws in his game. He has decision-making problems and poor hockey sense in the defensive zone, he's not a very quick skater. Like I said previously, I just think McKenzie checks off a lot more boxes than any other prospect listed. Size, hockey sense, 200 ft game, shot.
 

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