It would have been more impressive, if you came out with this entire list of "must draft" prospects, prior to the draft.Murray's worst draft. Touted as a phenomenal scout and this is what he produced in the first 3 rounds with all the picks from Regier. Karabacek even got a preaseason game after his draft and then he missed curfew and got cut from the WJC team and its been downhill. (1 point in 7 games in the ECHL before the injury)
2nd Sam Reinhart (on pace for 24 points this year, albeit after putting up 42, 47 points as a 2nd overall who isn't great at really anything other then hockey sense although with his potential can be a solid winger on a 2nd or 3rd line who can put up 25-30 goals Andreychuk light with the right skilled players but he won't be a line driver)
Available: Draisaitl, W. Nylander, Pastrnak, Ehlers
31st Brendan Lemieux
Available: Barbashev, Demko, McKeown, Point, Dvorak, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Montour, Heinen, Arvidsson
44th Eric Cornel (22 points in 110 AHL games)
Available: McKeown, Point, Dvorak, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Montour, Heinen, Arvidsson, De Leo
49th Vaclav Karabacek (ECHL)
Available: McKeown, Point, Dvorak, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Montour, Heinen, Arvidsson, DeLeo
61st Jonas Johansson (ECHL)
Available: Point, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Heinen, Arvidsson, DeLeo, Blais, Wallmark, Bjork, Valiev, Tryamkin
74th Brycen Martin (ECHL, 0 points in 21 AHL games)
Available: Point, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Heinen, Arvidsson, DeLeo, Blais, Wallmark, Bjork, Nogier
Why would you assume I don't follow the draft? I was stating that the names listed below our selections was a handful of good names, not any poor names. Just because you and some other posters wanted player x doesn't mean he would be the pick, maybe they had a shitty interview or they just didn't fit the "heavy" standard the team was building towards. All I am saying is essentially the draft is a crap shoot and you can be a great drafter or a bad drafter but your gunna miss on high picks and capitalize on low picks from time to time.If you followed the draft you wouldn't be saying this. First our defence was hurting so the natural pick was defence. When Karabacek and Cornel were picked they were both reaches and Cornel was predicted 3rd round or later. Take a look back at the draft thread, myself and others were calling for McKeown, Dougherty and Montour to be drafted.
I don't have a problem with a bust in the second round. I have a problem when team need is defence and there is very good defensive prospects on the board and Murray is reaching. It just didn't make sense.
Ya, it wasn't player X, why do you generalize when we are talking about a specific time. Is it because you don't know who payer X,Y and Z were?Why would you assume I don't follow the draft? I was stating that the names listed below our selections was a handful of good names, not any poor names. Just because you and some other posters wanted player x doesn't mean he would be the pick, maybe they had a ****ty interview or they just didn't fit the "heavy" standard the team was building towards. All I am saying is essentially the draft is a crap shoot and you can be a great drafter or a bad drafter but your gunna miss on high picks and capitalize on low picks from time to time.
I generalize because it's rationale thought. We could have player A-Z and an argument could be made for either 1. I have never personally seen player y and player z sounds like a Russian forward so I can't comment. But seriously, if you want to argue that you thought player x was a better guy and still wanna keep riding that narrative to sound important, then by all means. I'm done hijacking Karabacek's thread.Ya, it wasn't player X, why do you generalize when we are talking about a specific time. Is it because you don't know who payer X,Y and Z were?
I get what you're saying but if you look through threads many of us named guys on those lists that we wanted, especially defenseman. Ya you can't cherry pick but you can't get EVERY pick wrong. You have to hit on a pick there. Instead we came out empty handed in what was deemed the most important draft in Buffalo history at the time of Murray's hiring.You can't just cherry pick the good names 3.5 years later lol. There are plenty of names that were bad picks for other teams as well.
Murray's worst draft. Touted as a phenomenal scout and this is what he produced in the first 3 rounds with all the picks from Regier. Karabacek even got a preaseason game after his draft and then he missed curfew and got cut from the WJC team and its been downhill. (1 point in 7 games in the ECHL before the injury)
2nd Sam Reinhart (on pace for 24 points this year, albeit after putting up 42, 47 points as a 2nd overall who isn't great at really anything other then hockey sense although with his potential can be a solid winger on a 2nd or 3rd line who can put up 25-30 goals Andreychuk light with the right skilled players but he won't be a line driver)
Available: Draisaitl, W. Nylander, Pastrnak, Ehlers
31st Brendan Lemieux
Available: Barbashev, Demko, McKeown, Point, Dvorak, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Montour, Heinen, Arvidsson
44th Eric Cornel (22 points in 110 AHL games)
Available: McKeown, Point, Dvorak, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Montour, Heinen, Arvidsson, De Leo
Agree: McKeown should've been the pick here
49th Vaclav Karabacek (ECHL)
Available: McKeown, Point, Dvorak, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Montour, Heinen, Arvidsson, DeLeo
61st Jonas Johansson (ECHL)
Available: Point, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Heinen, Arvidsson, DeLeo, Blais, Wallmark, Bjork, Valiev, Tryamkin
74th Brycen Martin (ECHL, 0 points in 21 AHL games)
Available: Point, Labanc, Kase, Forsling, Heinen, Arvidsson, DeLeo, Blais, Wallmark, Bjork, Nogier
So game 20 for the season today... 4 assists and a -6 for the year. And still another year on his ELC. I wonder if they can Jonathan Parker him onto another team with a surplus of available contract slots?
Not surprising . He just never showed anything since being drafted. Time is running out for Cornel too in this organization.
That's pretty much always the case with mutual termination. He clearly has no place here going forward, so why not go back home rather than spend another year in the ECHL.The surprising part is that it was mutual.
I wonder if he has a team in Europe that he wants to sign with and the Sabres just want the contract to be freed up.
It's not a buy-out, and there's no cap charge.How does this buyout effect the cap if at all?
It's not a buy-out, and there's no cap charge.
You need to sift a lot of crap on this board to get these nuggets of gold. Well played.The signing of Sam must of made him expendable