USA looks like Gold for prospects for 2006 and 2007

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  1. scoutman1

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    All these players have the chance to be drafted and actually possibly make it with some of the 1st few listed having the chance to be stars to super stars in the NHL

    2006:

    Phil Kessel
    Peter Mueller
    Erik Johnson
    Joseph Palmer
    Kyle Okposo
    Tyson Dowzak
    Joey Ryan
    Chad Morin
    Blake Geoffrion
    Ben Strait
    Chris Atkinson
    Rhett Rakhshani
    Kevin Montgomery
    Jack Combs
    Mike Ratchuk
    Jason Reese
    Luke Popko
    Steve Spade
    James Pouliot
    Brett Bennett

    2007:
    Jimmy O'Brien
    Nick Petrecki
    Tristin Llewellyn
    Nick Jascowiak
    Matt Rust
    Matt Thurber
    Drayson Bowman
    Matt Smyth
    Pat Kane
    Ryan Hayes
    Josh Franklin
    Joe Lavin
    Jarrett Toll
    Ryan Schnell
    Brad Phillips
    Colby Cohen
    Kevin Shattenkirk
    Ian Cole
     
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    This list will look drastically different in a year or two. Dont count your eggs...
     
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    Canada will have more :D
     
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    A good number of the players you've listed were big time at one point but have really fallen off. You've also left off plenty of guys who have become stronger prospects over time.

    I've added my comments below in bold...

     
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    *Applaudes Cagney's incredibly in depth comments*

    If it was me, the list of comments would comprise of "meh" , "hyped" and "lollipop".
     
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    James Pouliot has been not given a fair chance in Halifax and should this year...very slick puck handler with good vision and passing, fights and plays rough. Has the ability to do exciting plays as well.

    Joey Ryan...might not have the offensive package once thought he now is super tough a fighter, hits, plays well positioned defensem, very sound, aggressive and intimidating on the ice.

    but this list is to point out the potential draft players some might even go 7th round or 9th round if they go back to the old format for next year. Some might not get drafted but they still deserve to be on the list.

    Toll is going to play for Tri-City next year of the WHL he is one of the better d-men for his age in the USA.
     
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    If the Preds let Nashville native Blake Geoffrion go by on day one, I will throw out my framed picture of Blake's great-grandfather lying in state at center ice in the Montreal Forum.
     
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    I remember you posting many positive reports on him around this time last year. Do you not feel his season was a bit dissapointing? I agree that he still seems like a possible day one prospect but in the past he was hyped as a potential first rounder.

    While I have your attention, what's your take on Matt Smyth's plummet in the latter half of the past season. I remember you were very high on him earlier this year. I've also read that there isn't much to his game beyond speed. What would you say to that?
     
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    Bowman, from what hes shown in training camp and the exhibition games hes played so far in Spokane, hes showing he can end up being a mid to late 2nd round pick in his draft year.
     
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    I think the first half of last season was disappointing for Geoffrion in terms of his numbers compared to the expectations coming in. I think he turned it around at the U-17, where he had more points than Okposo, whom everyone seems to love. I believe he was the team's second leading scorer for the rest of the season after the U-17.

    Remember, this is a kid who grew up playing and learning hockey in Nashville, Tennessee, where the top level of hockey would be equivalent to A or maybe AA in a place like Toronto or Detroit. So in that context, it's amazing that he has reached the level that he has. Having said that, when all is said and done, I predict that Blake will be drafted between picks 20-50. The size, skating, tools, toughness and bloodlines are just too impressive to let him get past the second round.

    It's kind of the same story with Smyth. He came into the GTHL and tore it up right away, so people were saying he was a top 5 pick. Everyone suddenly forgot that this was a kid who the previous year was playing 30 games of midget A hockey in Orlando, Florida. He struggled at the end of the 70+ game season because he was clearly tired, and people like you began using words like "plummet". He plummetted all the way to pick #14. I trust that Stan Butler knows what he's doing in evaluating talent.

    As far as there being not much to his game beyond speed, the ISS OHL draft preview I have here in front of me (for whatever it's worth) has Smyth ranked as both the best skater and the best pure goal scorer in the draft. He is the only player ranked first in 2 categories.
     
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    I think Luke Popco will have a great year this year. He is a very underared player. He is strong as a horse and still has room to grow. Also I think Joe Palmer is still one of the top rated goalies. With Bennet hurt (shoulder) Palmer with get plenty of work this season.
     
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    Cagney is right, alot of those kids for the 06 draft peaked young, and have been replaced by better players. Scoutman here are some US 06 eligible players to watch for, you missed quite a few. some are very obvious.

    Joe Palmer G - 88 - ntdp
    Brett Bennett G - 88 - ntdp
    Neil Conway G - 88- Owen Sound
    Billy Sauer G - 88 - U of Michigan
    Erik Johnson D - 88 - ntdp
    Brian Strait D - 88- ntdp
    Nigel Williams D - 88 - ntdp
    Chris Summers D - 88 - ntdp
    Bobby Sanguinetti D - 88 - Owen Sound
    Tysen Dowzak D - 88 - Kelowna
    Mark Mitera D - 87 - U of Michigan
    Joey Ryan D - 87 - Quebec
    Phil Kessel F - 87 - U of Minnesota
    Nick Foligno F - 87 - Sudbury
    Vlad Nikiforov F - 87 - Barrie (sleeper)
    Peter Mueller F - 88 - Everett
    Kyle Okposo F - 88 - Des Moines
    Mike Forney F - 88 - ushl
    Blake Geoffrion F - 88 - ntdp
    Jason Reese F 88 - Vancouver
    Ben Smith F - 88 - Westminster

    For the 07s some forwards to check out are mike hoeffel, jimmy hayes, nico sacchetti, and brett bruneteau
     
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    sorry hayes and sacchetti are late 89s and 08 eligible
     
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    Bobby is way better

    I've seen many if not most of these guys in spring/summer AAA hockey over the past four years. Bobby Sanguinetti is the one who stands out above the rest.
     
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    alot of those players you have for the 07 yeah are way too young... maybe one or two of the 89s will make it. Just my opinion but I think many would have to agree with me.
     
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    I've heard that and I think there could be some merit to that assessment. Relatively speaking though, his stock certainly plummeted. He was getting some tremendous hype in the first half last year and then it just went completely dead around the period of the OHL Cup and Prospects tourny. Hopefully he'll be ready for a full season in the OHL this year.
     
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    When did Bennett get injured? How long is he expected to be out for?
     
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    I think he is being operated on this week. He could be out until January or february.
    They wiil have to pull in another goalie from somewhere until then.
     
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    Ryan Flynn is apparently getting some pretty good praise by pro scouts. Considering his size and skill combo, he will probably go in the first few rounds.

    Another kid who is flying under the radar of most people here (much like Wheeler, Niskanen and some other recent MN high schoolers did at this stage of their draft year) is Michael Forney. Do not be surprised if he goes early as he has already received praise from Red Line Report this past year as a potential 1st rounder.
     
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