Upside of these prospects...

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  1. nellspot

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    Really interested to hear your guys thoughts. On the players you know, how do you see their point production 5 years down the road?

    I am sure alot of people would appreciate feedback, especially with Pool Drafts coming up...

    Age Name Last Yrs Stats Scouting Report

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    19 Alexander Ovechkin 0 0-0-0 Franchise winger. Is considered a cant-miss prospect. Has natural scoring instincts and an all-around game.
    20 Joffrey Lupul 75 13-21-34 First line winger. Goal scorers mentality, creative instincts and unlimited offensive potential.
    20 Thomas Vanek 0 0-0-0 First line winger. Is a natural goal scorer. Owns the confidence of a veteran sniper.
    20 Zach Parise 0 0-0-0 First line center. Is a supremely intelligent player. Never stops hustling and possesses the heart of a winner. Must add more physical strength.
    24 Mike Ribeiro 81 20-45-65 Second line center. Has exceptional vision and creativity on the ice. His offensive instincts are off the charts.
    21 Igor Grigorenko 0 0-0-0 First line winger. Has tremendous hockey sense, great shiftiness and the instincts to put up huge numbers in the NHL.
    18 Evgeni Malkin 0 0-0-0 Franchise center. Possesses both size and an impressive skill set. Has been compared to Sundin and Lecavalier for his reach and point producing ability.
    18 Robbie Schremp 0 0-0-0 First line center. Is capable of playing with an unbelievable display of skill and finesse. Can score points at will and often changes the shape of a hockey game.
    24 Jonathan Cheechoo 81 28-19-47 Top six winger. Has good scoring instincts and knows his way around the offensive zone.
    19 Patrice Bergeron 71 16-23-39 Top six forward. Drives the net with authority and loves to create offense when in possession of puck.
    22 Marek Svatos 4 2-0-2 Top six winger. Has a wealth of offensive talent and is confident in his ability with the puck. Smallish frame.
    19 Andrei Kostsitsyn 0 0-0-0 First line winger. Has explosive scoring ability and a nose for the net. Loves to dangle and make nifty plays.
    19 Jeff Carter 0 0-0-0 First line center. Has excellent offensive potential and a very projectable frame. Needs to work on his playmaking ability.
    20 Hugh Jessiman 0 0-0-0 First line winger. Has an excellent combination of size and scoring prowess. Possesses the ability to take over a game with his natural talent.
    21 Derek Roy 49 9-10-19 Second line center. Has a never-say-quit mentality and sees the ice well.
    18 Lauri Tukonen 0 0-0-0 First line winger. Owns slick moves and plenty of drive to the net. Likes to use his size in the offensive zone, and is strong on the puck at all times.
    24 Michael Ryder 81 25-38-63 Second line winger. Owns a lethal shot from the slot area and a goal-scorers mentality.
    24 Mark Bell 82 21-24-45 Power forward. Has sound defensive skills and some offensive upside.
    19 Patrick O'Sullivan 0 0-0-0 Top six forward. Is an explosive scorer. Can be effective at all three forward positions.
    21 Alexander Svitov 40 2-9-11 Two-way center. Has great size and two-way potential. Possesses above-average offensive upside although may not have creativity to rack up big assist totals.
    24 Ryan Malone 81 22-21-43 Top six forward. Is accomplished in the defensive zone and shows excellent offensive potential.
    19 Milan Michalek 2 1-0-1 Two-way winger. Is already polished at both ends of the ice. The jury is still out on his long-range scoring potential.
    22 Brad Boyes 1 0-0-0 Second line center. Is a budding leader and owns offensive qualities that should translate into points in the NHL.
    23 Tim Connolly 0 0-0-0 Top six forward. Superior speed, great hands and tremendous creativity. Must overcome his concussion problems.
    20 Matt Stajan 69 14-13-27 Second line center. Is very heady with or without the puck. Displays plenty of offensive potential. May rely heavily on his linemates to score at the NHL level.
    19 Dustin Brown 31 1-4-5 Top six winger. Already possesses an all-around game. Has excellent goal-scoring potential and a feel for lighting the lamp.
    23 Taylor Pyatt 63 8-12-20 Power forward. Boasts a tremendous combination of size and skating ability. The jury is still out on his offensive upside.
    24 Josef Vasicek 82 19-26-45 Top six forward. Is tough, intelligent and displays a strong work ethic. Plays a sound two-way game.
    19 Dan Fritsche 19 1-0-1 Second line center. Displays plenty of offensive potential, mainly because of excellent on-ice vision.
    24 Trent Hunter 77 25-26-51 Top six winger. Has good size and plays a very sound, all-around game. His long-term scoring potential is still up in the air.

    Defenseman

    23 J-M Liles 79 10-24-34 Power play quarterback. Has plenty of offensive acumen. Plays with supreme confidence when in possesion of the puck. Smallish frame.
    21 Ryan Whitney 0 0-0-0 No. 1 defenseman. Has tremendous size and offensive potential from the blueline position.
    21 Lukas Krajicek 18 1-6-7 Power play quarterback. Has all-star potential from the back end. Will put up points and also loads of ice time when he becomes an NHL regular.
    23 M-A Bergeron 54 9-17-26 Power play specialist. Moves the puck quickly and has the ability to rack up points if given enough ice time. Only 5-9, 190 pounds.
    21 Fedor Tyutin 25 2-5-7 Top four defenseman. Features an impressive all-around arsenal.
    23 Paul Martin 70 6-18-24 Power play quarterback. Has sound offensive instincts and a projectable frame.
    19 Dion Phaneuf 0 0-0-0 No. 1 defenseman. Hits everything that moves. Owns a big shot from the point and isnt shy about unleashing it.
    19 Braydon Coburn 0 0-0-0 No. 1 defenseman. Has the making of an all-around star along the blueline. Moves very well for a big man and owns excellent offensive potential.
    24 David Tanabe 45 5-7-12 Power play specialist. Loves to lug the puck up ice and create scoring chances.
    21 Keith Ballard 0 0-0-0 Power play quarterback. Is very confident in his ability to lead the attack from the back end. Displays plenty of offensive potential.
    21 Carlo Colaiacovo 2 0-1-1 Top four defenseman. Has plenty of offensive upside. Needs to gain more experience before becoming a factor in the NHL.
    20 Denis Grebeshkov 4 0-1-1 No. 2 defenseman. Isnt shy about laying on the body and displays excellent offensive potential.
    18 Cam Barker 0 0-0-0 No. 1 defenseman. Possesses a hard, accurate shot from the point, which is especially effective on the power play.
    19 Ryan Suter 0 0-0-0 No. 2 defenseman. Possesses an excellent all-around game. Can rack up points on the power play, mainly due to a heavy point shot.
     
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    Alexander Ovechkin - Hes very quick, has a very hard accurate shot, has good size at 6'2 207lbs. He has already played in the World Cup against men in the NHL, he managed to notch 2 points in 6 games. I see him being a 75+ point scorer in the NHL consistently, as well playing a pretty solid two way game. I would rate him as a 9.5A according to Hockeysfuture rating chart.

    Alexander Svitov - He was touted as a great prospect during his 2001 draft year, he hasn't lived up to nearly his potential in the NHL yet. Hes a pretty solid two way centre, I see him racking in about 35-40pts a year with a pretty solid two way game. I rate him a 7.5C.

    Marek Svatos - He showed he could play at the NHL level this year, having some success in the Playoffs notching 6 points in 11 games. Anyways he is very shifty and has a good shot, the only problem with him is his size, he only stands at 5'9 170lbs, but even with his size i can still see him being an impact player, i see a solid 60-65 points for him in the future, i would rate him as a 8.0B.

    Zach Parise - He has loads of offensive talent, he has proven that in the WJC last season as well in the NCAA playing for North Dakota. He doesnt have overwhelming size, he stands 5'11 185lbs, i think if he bulked up abit he could be a much better player not that he already isnt a great player. I see a point production of 55-60pts for him in the not to distant future. 8.5B

    Dion Phaneuf - Dion Phaneuf, one of the top prospect defenseman in the NHL right now, hes a heavy hitting dman with some offensive talent. I see him being a solid defenseman putting up 25-30 points a year. 8.0 A.
     
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    19 Alexander Ovechkin: Has the potential to be the difference in any given game. Very exciting player who can put up 85-95 pts on a consistent basis while playing sound defensively. I'm also quite sure he'll have a few of 100+ pts seasons under his belt before he's done.

    24 Mike Ribeiro: Slow but massively creative and talented. He plays an unassuming game and can rack up points like no one else at the end of a game. If he can overcome his issues, 25 goals and 50-55 assists at his peak would be fair.

    18 Evgeni Malkin: Another potential Franchise player. This guy can skate and hit. At his peak, 95-100 pts if he puts it all together. 70-75 pts per season is what I would expect.

    18 Robbie Schremp: Ah the Enigma. Rob faces inconsistency issues so I don't think he'll ever dominate the game for a whole season. He'll work really well in stretches however. 70-80 pts a season, most of the points coming off assists.

    19 Patrice Bergeron: A solid two-way offensive winger who can make nifty moves on the ice and plays with extreme calm and patience. I can see him racking up 65-70 pts (30-35 goals) on a consistent basis and captain the Bruins someday.

    19 Andrei Kostsitsyn: A real boom or bust proposition. This kid has little room for error in Montreal and say he develops well, he can surely be a 40 goal scorer. I say his point totals max out at about 85-90 pts.

    21 Derek Roy: A hard working smallish center with tons of skill. If he were three inches taller he'd be a dominant force on the ice. But as it is (and assuming he stays away from growth pills) He can put up 55-60 pts a year.

    24 Michael Ryder: I'm of the few who thinks he'll get more goals than points. Nor his vision nor his passing is great but his goal scoring instincts are and he plays a very gritty game, hard working game. 35-40 goals 30-35 assists for a total of 65-75 pts at his peak.

    19 Patrick O'Sullivan: An unbelievable talent who can skate and shoot the puck really well. If he ever adjusts to the NHL, he can put up 85-90 pts a year.

    21 Alexander Svitov: He remid me a bit of an early Jokinen. But I can't see possibly see him have more than 40-45 pts a year.

    Hope this helps.
     
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    How would he do that?
     
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    Leachmeister2000 and #2, great feedback...id love to hear your thoughts on some more players
     
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    I think we all know he meant more goals than assists.
     
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    Some guys are just THAT good at putting the puck in the net :D
     
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