TSN 690 & Other Montreal sports media Thread V

Discussion in 'Montreal Canadiens' started by Runner77, Oct 26, 2017.

  1. Capitano

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    Any way you define it, Molson holds the hammer and he is letting MB continue to make hockey decisions for this team.
     
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    And he deserves criticism for that, no question at all. I'm just not sure calls for a President of Hockey Ops makes a ton of sense. People just want one so that they'll fire Bergevin.
     
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    Lets enjoy it while we still can.
     
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    That could well be the case. Could be something to do with their advertisers as well, who knows.

    From memory the Impact, Als and Habs playoff plus preseason broadcasts take priority over baseball. I also seem to remember them broadcasting the Cup finals.

    If Nashville were to make the finals again, there will be alot of local interest.
     
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    If he is that stubborn he deserves whatever Bergevin brings his way, he can either swallow his pride now or eventually fire him in a year or two but the recovery might take 10 years.
     
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    It’s bizarro world over there. Sly is an asset, media is the problem.
     
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    No doubt this team could use ROR...

    Problem is, an in-division trade is going to cost a lot and Bergevin has already stated that he's not apt to paying a high price to fill a big need.

    So not bloody likely - Bergevin is probably waiting for some team to waive their #1C so he can pounce on them a la Byron.
     
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    Ya I agree... what would be a "fair" trade for him given our assets ?
     
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    It will require our 1st pick... I could see Buffalo interested if Tkachuk is available.
     
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    I went there and it depressed me.:laugh: I swear that everyone posting there has a comfort dog sitting at their side as they post. There were people there that make S bah sound like me.:laugh:
     
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    I'd imagine they'd want our 1st + Poehling and probably another roster player.
     
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    Well to be fair I think firing MB is overdue at this point. And unless Molson sells the team he isn't going anywhere so we're going to have the same issues when the next GM comes...having an owner that simply doesn't understand when things are going wrong and we're digging a hole that will just make it that much harder to ultimately win a cup.

    So hiring a President isn't that bad of an idea imo. It removes Molson from making hockey decisions bottom line.
     
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    What happens if the President needs to be fired or replaced?
     
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    As long as it's laced with THC, there is nothing to disagree with. :D
     
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    Technically you are correct, Molson's name doesn't appear on their Hockey Ops hierarchy: Hockey Operations

    He is listed in their "administration" section: Administration

    However, who are we kidding? Who is Bergevin's direct overseer if not Geoff Molson acting on behalf of the ownership group as "Owner, President and CEO"? Bergevin is accountable to Geoff Molson in practise, so he is his direct overseer. For our purposes, this is sufficient. I don't know why you feel compelled to do this kind of hair-splitting.
     
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    Correct. There are titles and hierarchical charts but ultimately, it's all about who is exercising control and there is no doubt that the responsibility to oversee Bergevin's actions is assumed by Geoff (acting on behalf of the ownership group, goes without saying).
     
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    Someone posted a thread about this. I'm wary of what it would cost to acquire him. He's 27 and has 5 more years at $7.5 -- it's another sizeable contract to absorb plus he's not a no. 1C. Wouldn't want him unless the price is reasonable and Buffalo eats some of his salary.
     
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    I'd rather it not happen but it wouldn't surprise me to see Galchneyuk headed Buffalo's way in a package for ROR. The Habs need to add to their already pathetic pop gun offense and IMO trading a Galchenyuk with other assets for ROR wouldn't improve the offense very much.
     
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    Because Molson isn't part of hockey Ops. And if we're not hair splitting, the majority of the GMs in the NHL answer directly to ownership.

    And if people don't trust Molson, I'm not sure why they'd trust him to hire an intermediary between himself and the GM.
     
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    I understand your point...but Molson made the mistake of extending this GM without any real reason to do that - a good President wouldn't have done that imo and would have likely fired the GM by now.

    But yes, if the President isn't doing a good job then it's no different I agree...but that's where hockey acumen comes in...if you put the right people in charge then success will come. We put a rookie in charge of the most difficult market in the league.

    I see your point though...maybe we don't need a president, but having that layer of hockey knowledge is valuable imo..the KEY is to find the right guy. Right now it's hard to see the silver lining in anything MB does because he is running on the spot each and every year. A good hockey man would see this. Molson doesn't.
     
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    We think. And There is no way a GM gets fired without Ownership approving. Whoever holds the purse always has final say.
     

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