Player Discussion Travis Hamonic

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In case anyone is worried about his current point totals:

Hamonic typically scores more points during the second half of the season, so I think he'll finish closer to the 25-30 point range rather than the 14 points he's projected on right now.

Even in the best cast scenarios in NYI, doesn't Hamonic trend around 20 points? 25-30 is perhaps a bit aggressive. I'm guessing most of us expect closer to 15-20 points with very solid overall D analytics. Most of us don't expect Hamonic to rack up points. We have Gio, Hamilton and Brodie for that. They are more suited to the risks than Hamonic. We are more hoping Hamonic down more as a defensively responsible shut down style player.

I'm quite certain most of us who have concerns about Hamonic aren't concerned relating to point production. Moreso we are concerned about some of the give aways and him being out of position, but IMO that's more due to him learning a new system.

 

[isles55]

Even in the best cast scenarios in NYI, doesn't Hamonic trend around 20 points? 25-30 is perhaps a bit aggressive. I'm guessing most of us expect closer to 15-20 points with very solid overall D analytics. Most of us don't expect Hamonic to rack up points. We have Gio, Hamilton and Brodie for that. They are more suited to the risks than Hamonic. We are more hoping Hamonic down more as a defensively responsible shut down style player.

I'm quite certain most of us who have concerns about Hamonic aren't concerned relating to point production. Moreso we are concerned about some of the give aways and him being out of position, but IMO that's more due to him learning a new system.

Harmonic averages 27 points/82 games. The thing is he's somewhat injury prone, and usually doesn't play 82 games.

 

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Harmonic averages 27 points/82 games. The thing is he's somewhat injury prone, and usually doesn't play 82 games.

Ah, I didn't realize that you had prorated it.

And.... he sustains injury in practice today. Here's hoping it's minor and he plays closer to 80 games than 60.

 

[FlamerForLife]

Ah, I didn't realize that you had prorated it.

And.... he sustains injury in practice today. Here's hoping it's minor and he plays closer to 80 games than 60.

Gulutzan said it's a minor injury and they'll find out more about it tomorrow.

 

[Calculon]

It's Andersson's time to shine

lol it's going to be Bartkowski

 

[Baxterman]

Hopefully only one game as he has been possibly the best defenseman (and if not him he allows Brodie to be the top guy).

A Bartowski-Kulak pairing while be a nightmare if forced to play together. Probably best to just sit Kulak and go with 5 guys in that situation.

 

[Skobel24]

In case anyone is worried about his current point totals:

Hamonic typically scores more points during the second half of the season, so I think he'll finish closer to the 25-30 point range rather than the 14 points he's projected on right now.

Even if he only gets 14 points, that's not really on him. When the team is scoring 2 goals per game, primarily shutdown type defenseman isn't gonna see much production.

 

[FerklundCGY]

Hopefully only one game as he has been possibly the best defenseman (and if not him he allows Brodie to be the top guy).

A Bartowski-Kulak pairing while be a nightmare if forced to play together. Probably best to just sit Kulak and go with 5 guys in that situation.

Mmm... not true

 

[Baxterman]

Mmm... not true

It's either him or Brodie and if it's Brodie it's in large part due to Hamo if covering for him allowing him to ignore his defensive responsibilities.

 

[FerklundCGY]

It's either him or Brodie and if it's Brodie it's in large part due to Hamo if covering for him allowing him to ignore his defensive responsibilities.

Gio and Hamilton have been a much better pairing 5on5 this season. It's not even close. That's not to say Brodie and/or Hamonic have been bad. But Gio/Hamilton have been dominant once again

 

[Sparky93]

Gio and Hamilton have been a much better pairing 5on5 this season. It's not even close. That's not to say Brodie and/or Hamonic have been bad. But Gio/Hamilton have been dominant once again

Gio-Hamilton were very sub-par, the first 6-7 games. It’s really not even a debate, which pairing was better but I do agree they’ve been better, as of late.
Maybe my expections were too high but I don’t think either pairing has truly hit their stride yet. The breakout is better but Smith deserves a lot of credit for that. Shot totals are too high and we still struggle when teams actually do start cycling. The defense overall haven’t activated offensively the way I expect yet, outside of the first 6 games or so.

 

[Baxterman]

Gio and Hamilton have been a much better pairing 5on5 this season. It's not even close. That's not to say Brodie and/or Hamonic have been bad. But Gio/Hamilton have been dominant once again

I would say Brodie and Hamonic have been much better.

I love Hamilton but he hasn't been as good this year as he was last season. I do expect him to pick it up and by the end of the year he will be right there with Hamonic and Brodie.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

I'm actually surprised Baxter hates Giordano, especially as Giordano is the closest thing on the Flames to the type of Dmen Baxter loves.

 

[Mr Snrub]

It'll be Bartkowski - Andersson and I'll be sad.

 

[Baxterman]

I'm actually surprised Baxter hates Giordano, especially as Giordano is the closest thing on the Flames to the type of Dmen Baxter loves.

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I don't hate Gio.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

?

I don't hate Gio.

True hate is a strong word, but you definitely underrate him and don't give him as much respect since you've said that he's our fourth best Dman, which I don't agree.

 

[Rangediddy]

It'll be Bartkowski - Andersson and I'll be sad.

Nope, Flames site has the projected lineup:

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Stone
Bartkowski-Kulak

What emotion is after sad?

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

What emotion is after sad?

Gulutsad

 

[DFF]

Well, maybe it's a good thing, they know they have to score more than one goal to win now

 

[Mr Snrub]

Nope, Flames site has the projected lineup:

Giordano-Hamilton
Brodie-Stone
Bartkowski-Kulak

What emotion is after sad?

I don't think the English language has a word to adequately express my disgust

 

[PWJunior]

Saw this article on NHL.com on Hamonic, wanted to check up on him...

Hamonic ready for next life-changing event

As told to you by so many Isles fans, the guy is character +++. Great to see him being his usual classy self with his work off the ice. He sounds happy there and his wife is expecting. Happy for him, he deserves it.

Good luck to him and you guys in 2018.

 

[Deen]

He is a solid player. We just overpaid for him. I fully expect him to be a playoff beast if we ever get there.

 

[Tavares2Hall]

Hey guys! I'm an Isles fan coming in peace. I'm just wondering what type of a season Hamonic is having for you guys? His numbers don't look like much, but he has never been a player who's value has really been represented by his numbers. He was pretty bad for us for the last year+, but he was our best defenceman for a long stretch before that. I see that your team has been playing lights out (congratulations btw) so I figured it would be a good time to check in and see if he has been a reliable top-4 dman. Thank you in advance!

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/travis-hamonic.2404933/

 

[Tavares2Hall]

Thank you, but has anything changed since early November? What is your updated view on how he is playing?