Ansar Khan: Trades, Buyouts, and the Entry Draft

[SportsballChic]

How was Dallas at center before they got Seguin?

Awful. Now they have 2 legit centers. It was a great deal for them if Seguin is the real thing again. They not only addressed a need but they also got the more talented player in the deal (afaict); the cost was high but in their situation? I think it was a bold, but perfect move.

But you knew all that, that's why you asked the question

 

[JmanWingsFan]

Eklund has Bobby Ryan to Detroit at E3... So... Yeah... Random worthless bit of information of the day... Nothing wrong with dreaming though.

 

[Cyborg Yzerberg]

How was Dallas at center before they got Seguin?

Pretty bad. They had Roy before, whom they traded at the deadline, otherwise, they were desperate for a center.

 

[ricky0034]

1) I don't know that Boston was looking to trade him to a team in it's own division. They're a little arrogant but that's pretty much saying "we think Seguin is a bust." I dunno, I think that'd be a factor.

2) We don't have anyone as good as they gave up. Although I will concede "that guy"'s point that if Nyquist or Tatar had been given more playing time; MAYBE we could have? But speaking of "unicorns"; we didn't and we therefore don't have that kind of asset.

Unless like I said, you'd like them to move Z or Kronner? Cause that's the only way we're getting a former #2 overall draft pick afaict... and we'll probably have to give extra due to age. Really.

Wade Redden is a UFA

 

[SportsballChic]

Wade Redden is a UFA

Got me. I knew I left a word out there: "young"

 

[RayMoonDoh]

I thought seguin lined up at RW?

 

[SportsballChic]

I thought seguin lined up at RW?

He did. Apparently (based on a Dreger tweet) Dallas will move him back to center and that's where Seguin wants to be anyways.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Sounds like Horcoff is on his way to Dallas, Good now we dont have to worry about Holland possibly trying to get him down the road. At least not with that awful contract.

 

[1st Line Interloper]

Sounds like Horcoff is on his way to Dallas, Good now we dont have to worry about Holland possibly trying to get him down the road. At least not with that awful contract.

Perhaps it was Nill who was pushing for that deal...

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Perhaps it was Nill who was pushing for that deal...

Yeah i'm thinking that to, I would'nt mind Horcoff If Edmonton had bought him out. And we could have had him on a short cheap deal but not for what he's getting no way for a 3rd line center.

 

[1st Line Interloper]

Yeah i'm thinking that to, I would'nt mind Horcoff If Edmonton had bought him out. And we could have had him on a short cheap deal but not for what he's getting no way for a 3rd line center.

I will lol if Nill provides Danny Cleary as a linemate of Horcoff. It's well within the realm of possibility.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I will lol if Nill provides Danny Cleary as a linemate of Horcoff. It's well within the realm of possibility.

Sure it is, Nill knows Cleary the best and I guess theres supossingly 12 teams interested in him. I would'nt be surprised to see Dallas as one of the teams. That would be pretty funny though, Horcoff and Cleary together Dallas would have a joke of a 3rd line there that's for sure.

 

[1st Line Interloper]

Sure it is, Nill knows Cleary the best and I guess theres supossingly 12 teams interested in him. I would'nt be surprised to see Dallas as one of the teams. That would be pretty funny though, Horcoff and Cleary together Dallas would have a joke of a 3rd line there that's for sure.

The big joke is that I don't think it would be their 3rd line, it would be their 2nd.

 

[Syckle78]

Calgary will sign him. Please,Feaster let your ineptitude save us from Holland.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

The big joke is that I don't think it would be their 3rd line, it would be their 2nd.

As it stands now your right it would be there 2nd line, Ouch that's even worse. Just curious if Nill actually knows what he's doing right now! The Seguin trade was good but Horcoff really.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Calgary will sign him. Please,Feaster let your ineptitude save us from Holland.

Yes Feaster please do, Sign him and save us poor ole Red Wing fans from Ken Hollands ineptitude.

 

[SportsballChic]

Yes Feaster please do, Sign him and save us poor ole Red Wing fans from Ken Hollands ineptitude.

To be fair, I think we're back to mediocrity.

My logic is that if 12+ other GMs wanted to talk to Cleary we can only say Holland is "average" for wanting to do so

(Actually, I'm still in the Holland is pretty good camp. But I won't lie; I have NO clue what we're doing this offseason; if it's nothing, I think that's a terribad decision)

 

[crashman]

To be fair, I think we're back to mediocrity.

My logic is that if 12+ other GMs wanted to talk to Cleary we can only say Holland is "average" for wanting to do so

(Actually, I'm still in the Holland is pretty good camp. But I won't lie; I have NO clue what we're doing this offseason; if it's nothing, I think that's a terribad decision)

Why do you guys keep talking about the off season like it's already over? Free agency hasn't even opened yet!

 

[RedWingsNow*]

Where's FissionFire with her Jim Nill legacy thread.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

Why do you guys keep talking about the off season like it's already over? Free agency hasn't even opened yet!

cause we dont think holland is smart enough to pull off anything that improves the DRW?

 

[The Zetterberg Era]

The big joke is that I don't think it would be their 3rd line, it would be their 2nd.

Really doubtful, with both Eakins and Peverley in the fold Horcoff isn't going that far up the lineup.

What Nill has done is made Dallas drastically better this weekend, he fixed the center ice position. Eriksson was a pretty big cost, but I understand what he is doing.

I don't know that they have the money left for Danny boy now anyway.

 

[Ricelund]

I've heard nothing about Derek Roy. What's the deal with him?

 

[RedWingsNow*]

Imagine how nerve wracking its going to be for Nill to watch his first team on the ice...You think you've done all this work to the best of your knowledge, but it all comes down to how those guys get it done on the ice

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

To be fair, I think we're back to mediocrity.

My logic is that if 12+ other GMs wanted to talk to Cleary we can only say Holland is "average" for wanting to do so

(Actually, I'm still in the Holland is pretty good camp. But I won't lie; I have NO clue what we're doing this offseason; if it's nothing, I think that's a terribad decision)

I agree if Ken Holland keeps going down this path of being cheap and only willing to sign cheap players on short term deals. We will be on the road to mediocrity. The sad part before the cap Holland was the best GM around and now since the cap he just wont spend any money to make the team better. Filppula gone both Brunner and Cleary most likely gone, Why do i fear that both Bertuzzi and Samuelsson will be in our top 6 this year and Holland will do absolutely nothing. It Would'nt suprise me as cheap as Holland is that he does'nt sign Cullen to be our 2nd line center He's 36 and most likely will only want a 2 year deal and with Jarnkrok coming up in a couple of years that would be the perfect situation.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I've heard nothing about Derek Roy. What's the deal with him?

I know i was wondering the same thing.