Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals/Free Agents 2017-2018 ‎part 3

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  1. TheNewEra

    TheNewEra Registered User

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    i feel like its one of those things that with our bottom 6 depth we might as well get him more seasoning since white has offensive upside as well and we might as well have a confident white coming and taking a spot on the team then a defensive white being given a spot
     
  2. danielpalfredsson

    danielpalfredsson i am a hot take machine

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    If anybody wants a takeaway from this MacArthur news, the significant thing about MacArthur LTIRetiring is that it opens things up to where Dorion could pursue a deal that involves dumping Mac's contract. Previously, if there was any thought Mac might return, doing so would have been in bad taste or might have upset other members of the locker room who had rallied around him.
     
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    check it out....someone gets questioned on what they wrote, rethinks their position and comes back with a "you're right" good stuff.
     
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    all Mac has to do every year is show up in September, fail the physical and head back to Florida. Dorion even said if he shows up next year and is able to play we'll look at it then
     
  5. TheNewEra

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    also this is a secondary source but apparently on team 1200 dorion said he was going to be in montreal

    maybe he is scouting arizona?
     
  6. danielpalfredsson

    danielpalfredsson i am a hot take machine

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    Yes, this is pretty much it.

    The other poster was claiming he had read an article that said his cap hit had been "removed". I think people just get confused about LTIR where the play is technically retired, but on paper still exists as a member of their previous organization until their contract is up.
     
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    danielpalfredsson i am a hot take machine

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    Wonder if we are gonna dump Mac's contract on the Coyotes while taking someone back. If Mac's contract is actually insured 80 percent, and there is any truth to the Coyotes being willing to trade OEL and his 5.5M cap hit, they could potentially have trouble hitting the cap floor next season. Paying about 1M for 4.65M of cap would be appealing, especially if they get an asset from us.

    I don't think Dorion would package an asset with MacArthur to dump the contract in an obvious way, but we might give up something like a draft pick and MacArthur for say Brad Richardson, where it can look like we are giving up the pick for Richardson, but we are secretly overpaying to get them to take Mac's contract. Something like Mac+3rd for Richardson instead of us giving up a 6th for Richardson.
     
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    i was thinking duclair, he hasnt started off at a blazing pace, but needs an extension so they maybe want to get out of whatever potential extension he wants

    or spitballing

    phaneuf+ for goligoski

    next year salaries are close to the same but arizona gets that higher cap hit to hit the floor and we get the cap break we need for our big 3 extensions
     
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    Supposedly there are 12 other GMs going as well
     
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    Mackenzie says we are still looking for a forward
     
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    If so a bottom 6 guy....I assume
     
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    I wonder if ARZ likes Paul? There was a bit of smoke around his name the last week or so. Duclair has been dead in the water for them the last two seasons.

    Something like Paul+3rd+MacArthur (4.65 Cap hit/950k real money salary after insurance) for Duclair (1.2M salary). It's really closer to a Paul+Duclair swap with ARZ getting a 3rd for taking on the Mac contract which might be useful to them for cap floor reasons (paying 950k for almost 5M of cap), but Dorion gets to execute it in a way where it doesn't exactly look like we are paying too dump that contract.

    Paul has to be waived next season to be assigned to the AHL if he doesn't make the Senators, so if Boucher doesn't like him, or if we think it won't work, now is the time to get something for him.
     
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    Waivers next year...hmmmm ya maybe move him, and McCormick has a 1 way next year....crap
     
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    The vultures are circling the soon to be corpse that just picked up Antti Niemi and his .822%sv.
     
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    I think even if Montreal reverted back to their start of the season losing ways that they wouldn't be honest and self-critical enough to go into sell mode.
     
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    OEL(50% retained)
    Anthony Duclair
    Dysin Mayo

    For

    Clarke MacArthur
    Thomas Chabot
    Colin White
    Christian Jaros
     
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    jeez lil pricey if this happens better win the cup this year and next
     
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    It would be an absolute nightmare to have Duchene, Karlsson and OEL all potentially go to UFA in the same year, and it would be highly likely that at least one of them (OEL for me) would not be re-signed. It would also be ironic that if OEL was not resigned, that the player Ottawa would need the most to replace him would be Chabot.

    If OEL was signed for longer at his current cap hit I'd think about it, but for now it's a pass.
     
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    If I'm Ottawa I take this as long as OEL signs a contract (under 7M) and we trade one of Phaneuf or Ryan; preferably Phaneuf.
     
  21. FolignoQuantumLeap

    FolignoQuantumLeap Its a trap

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    OEL is one of the premier players at his position, he's not signing for under 7M. His market value will be closer to 9.5M if he hit free agency.
     
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    That was the article I found. Next time I'll just put the link, but it does mention him no longer being on the books.

    And yes I know its dumb for him to retire but he would have my respect lol.
     
  23. Do Make Say Think

    Do Make Say Think & Yet & Yet

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    First of all: funny how you show up here as we are discussing a potential trade with Arizona ;)

    Second of all: no way. We can't give up all those cheap ELCs. Chabot means we can stand to pass on OEL.
     
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    How much for just Duclair?

    Not sure if he's a great fit but put him in our top 9 and he might pan out
     
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    I don't see anyone other than OEL on Arizona making us a better team.
     

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