Trade Proposals and Free Agency Thread - 2018 Edition Part I: Countdown to the Deadline

[WTFMAN99]

Just realized;

Craig MacTavish at Marlies game yesterday.
Lamoriello and Babcock at Marlies game yesterday.
Shanahan, Lamoriello, Dubas and Prindham watching practice from the stands this morning.
Peter Chiarelli at Leafs game tonight.

Didn't end up happening. I believe it was @SprDaVE that posted an image of MacTavish a while ago with a bunch of check marks or something next to Johnsson's name. I don't really want to move Johnsson for anything Edmonton is realistically moving.

Hopefully they changed the discussion over to a different player. I also don't see the Maroon fit. I still think the simplification of this would be Soshnikov for a 5th-7th

 

[SprDaVE]

Didn't end up happening. I believe it was @SprDaVE that posted an image of MacTavish a while ago with a bunch of check marks or something next to Johnsson's name. I don't really want to move Johnsson for anything Edmonton is realistically moving.

Hopefully they changed the discussion over to a different player. I also don't see the Maroon fit. I still think the simplification of this would be Soshnikov for a 5th-7th

Not sure what the Oilers have to offer that would fit our needs pre-deadline. Maroon makes no sense unless JVR leaves and that's not going to happen. The only player that sort of makes sense is Letestu... but he's not exactly what Babcock wants in his 4th liner.

I think this was just the Oilers doing their due diligence and scouting teams potentially buying.

Maybe this summer RNH could be had for a soft deal and the Leafs may knock on the door at that. There was some talks about Klefbom being dangled earlier this season but I doubt that's true.

The Oilers should be all over Soshnikov or Leivo though. Either would be upgrades in their lineup.

 

[Nithoniniel]

I don't really want to move Johnsson for anything Edmonton is realistically moving.

I was going to agree, but if Chiarelli wants to make another overreaction and send Klefbom our way, I'd be fine with Johnsson as part of the deal.

 

[SprDaVE]

I was going to agree, but if Chiarelli wants to make another overreaction and send Klefbom our way, I'd be fine with Johnsson as part of the deal.

Same here.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Not sure what the Oilers have to offer that would fit our needs pre-deadline. Maroon makes no sense unless JVR leaves and that's not going to happen. The only player that sort of makes sense is Letestu... but he's not exactly what Babcock wants in his 4th liner.

I think this was just the Oilers doing their due diligence and scouting teams potentially buying.

Maybe this summer RNH could be had for a soft deal and the Leafs may knock on the door at that. There was some talks about Klefbom being dangled earlier this season but I doubt that's true.

The Oilers should be all over Soshnikov or Leivo though. Either would be upgrades in their lineup. Soshnikov would be a big he

I was going to agree, but if Chiarelli wants to make another overreaction and send Klefbom our way, I'd be fine with Johnsson as part of the deal.

I am okay with Klefbom, I think he could go for the right deal but that being said...his durability is a bit rough and he is strictly a LHD right?

We'd have to move Dermott to his off side? Or do we get fancy and try to trade for handedness?

 

[SprDaVE]

I am okay with Klefbom, I think he could go for the right deal but that being said...his durability is a bit rough and he is strictly a LHD right?

We'd have to move Dermott to his off side? Or do we get fancy and try to trade for handedness?

Pretty sure Klefbom plays the right, or at least he's capable of it.

Hainsey won't be here forever and you all ready see some regression after a good stretch. Gardiner might be tough to keep as well.

I just like Klefboms contract and he fits in well once we start to lose veterans. He fits the "defense by committee" that McKenzie said the Leafs want in their defensive core.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Hainsey was, and probably still is, playing more minutes than he ever has. Can he keep it up or does he need some help? Help I'd say

 

[WTFMAN99]

Pretty sure Klefbom plays the right, or at least he's capable of it.

Hainsey won't be here forever and you all ready see some regression after a good stretch. Gardiner might be tough to keep as well.

I just like Klefboms contract and you fit in well once we start to lose veterans. He fits the "defense by committee" that McKenzie said the Leafs want in their defensive core.

I think that Hainsey has looked fatigued since coming back from that virus, we should try to reduce his minutes for sure.

2/3 of Leivo/Johnsson/Soshnikov (cheap wing depth for the Oilers)
Pickard

both 2nds? Not sure if it's enough.

Rielly-Dermott
Gardiner-Klefbom
Borgman-Hainsey

Hainsey's contract expires and insert Liljegren the following year?

 

[SprDaVE]

I think that Hainsey has looked fatigued since coming back from that virus, we should try to reduce his minutes for sure.

2/3 of Leivo/Johnsson/Soshnikov (cheap wing depth for the Oilers)
Pickard

both 2nds? Not sure if it's enough.

Rielly-Dermott
Gardiner-Klefbom
Borgman-Hainsey

Hainsey's contract expires and insert Liljegren the following year?

I would imagine Carrick/Borgman, Johnsson and a 1st is the absolute starting point. It doesn't feel like nearly enough though.

and you forgot Zaitsev in your lineup.

 

[Nithoniniel]

I would imagine Carrick/Borgman, Johnsson and a 1st is the absolute starting point. It doesn't feel like nearly enough though.

Yeah. That's why I hope that Chiarelli overreacts to Klefbom having a horrible season and gives him up for something like that, or less even. You never know with him.

 

[WTFMAN99]

I would imagine Carrick/Borgman, Johnsson and a 1st is the absolute starting point. It doesn't feel like nearly enough though.

and you forgot Zaitsev in your lineup.

Yeah. That's why I hope that Chiarelli overreacts to Klefbom having a horrible season and gives him up for something like that, or less even. You never know with him.

I think that I would be okay with Carrick, Johnsson, and a 1st for Kelfbom. If you're going to give up assets, might as well be for good players that are age appropriate and have term.

Rielly-Dermott
Gardiner-Klefbom
Hainsey-Zaitsev
Borgman

Reduces Hainsey's minutes. Might be asking a lot of Dermott but I have been SUPER impressed with him since he joined the team.

 

[BlueForever75]

I wouldn't trade for Klefbom, we have too many of his type. Not needed. Happy with grooming Dermott with those minutes. If we are going to pickup a future's dman it has to be McDonaugh. I would go all in. Him paired with Reilly would be great.

Reilly-McDonaugh
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott- Hainsey

Now that is a D.

 

[Nithoniniel]

I wouldn't trade for Klefbom, we have too many of his type.

Quality d-men? Not really.

As for McDonagh, he's better. He's also more of a LD than Klefbom, four years older, and otherwise very similar in how they play.

 

[ULF_55]

I think that Hainsey has looked fatigued since coming back from that virus, we should try to reduce his minutes for sure.

2/3 of Leivo/Johnsson/Soshnikov (cheap wing depth for the Oilers)
Pickard

both 2nds? Not sure if it's enough.

Rielly-Dermott
Gardiner-Klefbom
Borgman-Hainsey

Hainsey's contract expires and insert Liljegren the following year?

Perhaps there is some way to make it work.

McDavid's contract kicks in next season.

Carrick, Leivo, Soshnikov you might be able to get for the same cap hit as Klefbom. Yes, Oilers are giving up the best player but they're going to need some cheap bodies.

Leafs add a pick(s).

Oilers at 48 contracts, Leafs at 50.

 

[BlueForever75]

Quality d-men? Not really.

As for McDonagh, he's better. He's also more of a LD than Klefbom, four years older, and otherwise very similar in how they play.

I would put Zaitsev, Gardiner, and Dermott at the same level as Klefbom!!! Reilly would be better then him. Don't get me wrong, Klefbom is an upgrade on Polak and possibly better then Hainsey. But is he the dman that you want to trade assets for? I just wouldn't, I would rather trade for McDonaugh that has another year left after this year and would slide in perfectly next to Reilly.

Our 1st this year will be a late rounder. Toss in a third and a couple of mid-tier prospects. And get it done.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Perhaps there is some way to make it work.

McDavid's contract kicks in next season.

Carrick, Leivo, Soshnikov you might be able to get for the same cap hit as Klefbom. Yes, Oilers are giving up the best player but they're going to need some cheap bodies.

Leafs add a pick(s).

Oilers at 48 contracts, Leafs at 50.

1st is definitely in there or both 2nds, depending what they want more. Okay with including Carrick, i'd be okay with both Soshnikov and Leivo OR Johnsson as apart of the deal.

I would put Zaitsev, Gardiner, and Dermott at the same level as Klefbom!!! Reilly would be better then him. Don't get me wrong, Klefbom is an upgrade on Polak and possibly better then Hainsey. But is he the dman that you want to trade assets for? I just wouldn't, I would rather trade for McDonaugh that has another year left after this year and would slide in perfectly next to Reilly.

Our 1st this year will be a late rounder. Toss in a third and a couple of mid-tier prospects. And get it done.

LOL. McDonagh will go for a lot, too much even. Rielly and McDonagh wouldn't play together, both LHD. You okay with a 1st, Liljegren and Kapanen for McDonagh? That'll be the ask or something close to it.

Oilers are having cap problems and are going to have to give up a good player to fix their cap headaches.

I put Klefbom on the same level as Gardiner and Dermott, slightly better then Zaitsev. Think the East might be more agreeable for him, less physical.

 

[SprDaVE]

Perhaps there is some way to make it work.

McDavid's contract kicks in next season.

Carrick, Leivo, Soshnikov you might be able to get for the same cap hit as Klefbom. Yes, Oilers are giving up the best player but they're going to need some cheap bodies.

Leafs add a pick(s).

Oilers at 48 contracts, Leafs at 50.

Imagine giving up Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson, then a few years later giving up Oscar Klefbom for depth.

Ouch...

 

[Nithoniniel]

I would put Zaitsev, Gardiner, and Dermott at the same level as Klefbom!!! Reilly would be better then him. Don't get me wrong, Klefbom is an upgrade on Polak and possibly better then Hainsey. But is he the dman that you want to trade assets for? I just wouldn't, I would rather trade for McDonaugh that has another year left after this year and would slide in perfectly next to Reilly.

Our 1st this year will be a late rounder. Toss in a third and a couple of mid-tier prospects. And get it done.

So basically, you ignore that Klefbom was a highly successful top pairing d-man prior to this year? OK then.

 

[Cor]

Perhaps there is some way to make it work.

McDavid's contract kicks in next season.

Carrick, Leivo, Soshnikov you might be able to get for the same cap hit as Klefbom. Yes, Oilers are giving up the best player but they're going to need some cheap bodies.

Leafs add a pick(s).

Oilers at 48 contracts, Leafs at 50.

Interesting. Leafs pick would likely need to be a high one though

 

[Cor]

Didn't end up happening. I believe it was @SprDaVE that posted an image of MacTavish a while ago with a bunch of check marks or something next to Johnsson's name. I don't really want to move Johnsson for anything Edmonton is realistically moving.

Hopefully they changed the discussion over to a different player. I also don't see the Maroon fit. I still think the simplification of this would be Soshnikov for a 5th-7th

Can you link me to that? I’m interested in seeing it

 

[BlueForever75]

Imagine giving up Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson, then a few years later giving up Oscar Klefbom for depth.

Ouch...

Would rather help out the Oilers and take RNH back in any deal. That is their strength not their D. I would take no D from the Oilers they have been tarnished in that system.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Can you link me to that? I’m interested in seeing it

Was a while ago, maybe Dave can re-post the image for us. I remember it being somewhat hard to make out.

 

[BlueForever75]

1st is definitely in there or both 2nds, depending what they want more. Okay with including Carrick, i'd be okay with both Soshnikov and Leivo OR Johnsson as apart of the deal.



LOL. McDonagh will go for a lot, too much even. Rielly and McDonagh wouldn't play together, both LHD. You okay with a 1st, Liljegren and Kapanen for McDonagh? That'll be the ask or something close to it.

Oilers are having cap problems and are going to have to give up a good player to fix their cap headaches.

I put Klefbom on the same level as Gardiner and Dermott, slightly better then Zaitsev. Think the East might be more agreeable for him, less physical.

I will take RNH to help Oilers headaches with cap. Lets do it

 

[WTFMAN99]

I will take RNH to help Oilers headaches with cap. Lets do it

Don't think there is a fit there between the 2 teams for RNH.

Fingers crossed for Backlund in the off-season.

 

[showtime8]

If the Leafs are bringing in Klefbom, wouldn't Gardiner have to be going out?