Trade Proposals and Free Agency Thread - 2017 Edition Pt. III

[Legion34]

Depending on how they view internal options for centre next season, Backlund could certainly be an interesting option. The price would have to be right though - ie in the range of 5-5.5 mil over 5 years or so

Agreed, this is only if Willy isnt seen as a C. I would think that considering Turris signed for 6 x 6 that would have to set the market for Backlund and JVR. All drafted in the same year.

Turris

559

139

195

334

[TFOOT] [/TFOOT]

JVR

559

180

181

361

[TFOOT] [/TFOOT]

Backlund

492

101

146

247

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

JVR has already said he would take a haircut for term.... I wouldnt be opposed to a 5 x 7 deal.

Backlund is a lesser C than turris, He might be had for 5.5.... That would work perfectly fine. After the Marleau/Martin Contracts expire, we would have plenty of Room for a big name D.

 

[WTFMAN99]

1. Do you guys ever think Nylander and Babcock will function together?

2. If the answer is no, is a deal between CAR-TOR for Hanifin and Nylander as the main pieces something you guys would be okay with?

 

[Jozay]

1. yes

2. no

 

[Walshy7]

1. Do you guys ever think Nylander and Babcock will function together?

2. If the answer is no, is a deal between CAR-TOR for Hanifin and Nylander as the main pieces something you guys would be okay with?

pretty significant + form Carolina there, Nylander is a far better talent than Hanifin

 

[WTFMAN99]

pretty significant + form Carolina there, Nylander is a far better talent than Hanifin

Defense is more of a long term investment, Hanifin already looks much better this year then last. We all remember how long it took Rielly.

 

[Nithoniniel]

I'm still not worried about Nylander. I don't like his treatment, and I don't quite like his response to that treatment, but I'm not worried. I'd bet that within a month, Nylander is back on the top line looking more like himself, and producing accordingly.

The only difference from last year is that Nylander then showed a determination that hasn't quite been there this year. Getting a wake up call was what spurred him to become one of our most consistent players. This year it's made him doubt himself.

 

[BlueForever75]

Defense is more of a long term investment, Hanifin already looks much better this year then last. We all remember how long it took Rielly.

Still think that Nylander is the trophy piece in this deal. Carolina definitely needs to add.

I wouldn't be opposed to a deal as such:

Nylander
Carrick

for

Hanafin
Kruger


Toronto gains a 3rd line center in Kruger to replace Bozak behind Matthews and Kadri. And a top 4 dman,
Money saved on Nylander you can resign JVR. Don't think Hanafin will cost you more then what you signed Reilly on his deal. 4.5-5 million per.
Trade Bozak for picks
Trade Komarov for picks

Marleau-Matthews-Brown
JVR-Kadri-Marner
Hyman-Kruger-Kapanen
Martin-Moore-Soshnikov

Reilly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Hanafin
Borgman-Zaitsev

 

[Rob Brown]

Still think that Nylander is the trophy piece in this deal. Carolina definitely needs to add.

I wouldn't be opposed to a deal as such:

Nylander
Carrick

for

Hanafin
Kruger


Toronto gains a 3rd line center in Kruger to replace Bozak behind Matthews and Kadri. And a top 4 dman,
Money saved on Nylander you can resign JVR.
Trade Bozak for picks
Trade Komarov for picks

Marleau-Matthews-Brown
JVR-Kadri-Marner
Hyman-Kruger-Kapanen
Martin-Moore-Soshnikov

Reilly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Hanafin
Borgman-Zaitsev

I don't think Kruger is really much of an add, to be honest, especially because we're also giving up another player in the process.

 

[Barilko14]

Still think that Nylander is the trophy piece in this deal. Carolina definitely needs to add.

I wouldn't be opposed to a deal as such:

Nylander
Carrick

for

Hanafin
Kruger


Toronto gains a 3rd line center in Kruger to replace Bozak behind Matthews and Kadri. And a top 4 dman,
Money saved on Nylander you can resign JVR.
Trade Bozak for picks
Trade Komarov for picks

Marleau-Matthews-Brown
JVR-Kadri-Marner
Hyman-Kruger-Kapanen
Martin-Moore-Soshnikov

Reilly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Hanafin
Borgman-Zaitsev

You've just created two lines that can't score. We would be asking a lot from Kappy to turn the duo of Hyman & Kruger into anything but 15pt players.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Still think that Nylander is the trophy piece in this deal. Carolina definitely needs to add.

I wouldn't be opposed to a deal as such:

Nylander
Carrick

for

Hanafin
Kruger


Toronto gains a 3rd line center in Kruger to replace Bozak behind Matthews and Kadri. And a top 4 dman,
Money saved on Nylander you can resign JVR. Don't think Hanafin will cost you more then what you signed Reilly on his deal. 4.5-5 million per.
Trade Bozak for picks
Trade Komarov for picks

Marleau-Matthews-Brown
JVR-Kadri-Marner
Hyman-Kruger-Kapanen
Martin-Moore-Soshnikov

Reilly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Hanafin
Borgman-Zaitsev

I don't think Kruger is really much of an add, to be honest, especially because we're also giving up another player in the process.

I don't think Carolina has agreed with Kruger. I think he's sitting at 0-1 goals? Hanifin also plays the left side.

Might let you investigate Gardiner trade options (more likely in the off-season)

 

[Buds17]

1. Do you guys ever think Nylander and Babcock will function together?

2. If the answer is no, is a deal between CAR-TOR for Hanifin and Nylander as the main pieces something you guys would be okay with?

1. Yes

2. Tough to do this deal because I'd rather not trade Nylander and Hanifin's a lefty. Hanifin should be a good add with upside, but we'd still need to find a RHD or a Hainsey type that can play effectively on his off side, or move one of our LHD there. Might be able to get that piece in a trade if Nylander is a C (or the team acquiring him views him as one), but if that were the case, I'd probably not want to trade him even more.

 

[BlueForever75]

You've just created two lines that can't score. We would be asking a lot from Kappy to turn the duo of Hyman & Kruger into anything but 15pt players.

Ok then make the trade keep Kruger as the 4th line center for next season. Sign Tavares down the middle with money saved on Bozak, Komarov, and savings on Nylander contract.

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Marleau-Tavares-Brown
JVR-Kadri-Kapanen
Martin-Kruger-Soshnikov

D stays the same

 

[WTFMAN99]

1. Yes

2. Tough to do this deal because I'd rather not trade Nylander and Hanifin's a lefty. Hanifin should be a good add with upside, but we'd still need to find a RHD or a Hainsey type that can play effectively on his off side, or move one of our LHD there. Might be able to get that piece in a trade if Nylander is a C (or the team acquiring him views him as one), but if that were the case, I'd probably not want to trade him even more.

What if you had Rielly and Hanifin long term on the left side and were able to add a guy like Doughty or Karlsson?

Rielly-Doughty
Hanifin-Liljegren
Dermott-? (Rasanen long term?)
Borgman

Just trying to be creative in how we construct the defense.

 

[Barilko14]

Ok then make the trade keep Kruger as the 4th line center for next season. Sign Tavares down the middle with money saved on Bozak, Komarov, and savings on Nylander contract.

Hyman-Matthews-Marner
Marleau-Tavares-Brown
JVR-Kadri-Kapanen
Martin-Kruger-Soshnikov

D stays the same

Hard pass on a $3M 4th line C.

Looking at your lineup, don't think you are factoring bonuses into your salary projections.

 

[Barilko14]

What if you had Rielly and Hanifin long term on the left side and were able to add a guy like Doughty or Karlsson?

Rielly-Doughty
Hanifin-Liljegren
Dermott-? (Rasanen long term?)
Borgman

Just trying to be creative in how we construct the defense.

If we are going to get Doughty, I would much rather we pass on the Nylander/Hanifin trade.

 

[WTFMAN99]

If we are going to get Doughty, I would much rather we pass on the Nylander/Hanifin trade.

No crystal ball unfortunately, you should only make a trade if you think you'll be a better team, in the case of a trade like a Nylander-Hanifin trade, you have to feel you'll be better long term

 

[Barilko14]

No crystal ball unfortunately, you should only make a trade if you think you'll be a better team, in the case of a trade like a Nylander-Hanifin trade, you have to feel you'll be better long term

I'll wait it out then.

If we can upgrade from Gardiner to Doughty two summers from now, it would be well worth the wait.

 

[Buds17]

What if you had Rielly and Hanifin long term on the left side and were able to add a guy like Doughty or Karlsson?

Rielly-Doughty
Hanifin-Liljegren
Dermott-? (Rasanen long term?)
Borgman

Just trying to be creative in how we construct the defense.

Can't argue with that blueline on paper! Carolina certainly seems like a good fit trade-wise considering areas of depth and need too. Tough to figure out our blueline because of how young/inexperienced some of the potential pieces are (Borgman, Dermott, Liljegren). If either of Doughty or Karlsson are available though, can't see how we don't pull out all the stops to get either in the blue and white, unless Zaitsev and Liljegren seem to unquestionably be the top two-thirds of a right side blueline that a team can win with by then. I wonder if a left side of Rielly-Dermott-Borgman is plausible as well?

 

[Daisy Jane]

1. Do you guys ever think Nylander and Babcock will function together?

2. If the answer is no, is a deal between CAR-TOR for Hanifin and Nylander as the main pieces something you guys would be okay with?

yes.
no.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Can't argue with that blueline on paper! Carolina certainly seems like a good fit trade-wise considering areas of depth and need too. Tough to figure out our blueline because of how young/inexperienced some of the potential pieces are (Borgman, Dermott, Liljegren). If either of Doughty or Karlsson are available though, can't see how we don't pull out all the stops to get either in the blue and white, unless Zaitsev and Liljegren seem to unquestionably be the top two-thirds of a right side blueline that a team can win with by then. I wonder if a left side of Rielly-Dermott-Borgman is plausible as well?

I was hoping to get Dermott in this season on the 3rd pairing, then gets next year, and Gardiner expires and boom, hopefully ready for 2nd pairing duties or we'd know if we needed external help.

 

[rumman]

1. Do you guys ever think Nylander and Babcock will function together?

2. If the answer is no, is a deal between CAR-TOR for Hanifin and Nylander as the main pieces something you guys would be okay with?

got to ask yourself, who has the longer future in Toronto Bab's or Willy? cause if they can't co exist best one of the two gets moved, and I doubt the Leafs will trade Babs!

 

[Barilko14]

Therrien & now Julien vs. Galchenyuk for several years is the point where someone should ask if they can co-exist going forward.

Babcock vs. Nylander is worlds away from that.

 

[Buds17]

I was hoping to get Dermott in this 3rd on the 3rd pairing, then gets next year, and Gardiner expires and boom, hopefully ready for 2nd pairing duties or we'd know if we needed external help.

Definitely would be great if things work out that way. I'm not sure how the pairings will end up going into next season. At minimum, I'd hope for more of a steady option in the Polak/Carrick slot. Wonder if either Dermott or Liljegren can make the jump from the start and who they replace/pair with if they do?

 

[Muston Atthews]

Trading hall for Larsson sure worked out well for Edmonton

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Trading Nylander would be a mistake.