Pass...counter offerPacioretty for Giroux?
Pacioretty + Mete
for
Simmonds + Sanheim + mid-round pick
P.S. I suck at trade proposals lol
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Pass...counter offerPacioretty for Giroux?
Pass...counter offer
Pacioretty + Mete
for
Simmonds + Sanheim + mid-round pick
P.S. I suck at trade proposals lol
I understand that...but we're also filling a need (center) by creating another (winger).
I mean sure, you could say we could move Drouin to the wing, Galchenyuk, Byron, Lehkonen, Hudon...etc
We have options in terms of wingers.
However none of those players are proven goal scorers the way Pacioretty is. I mean you have Galchenyuk who has 1 30 goal season, Drouin has 1 20 goal season, Byron 1 20 goal season.
But I would be careful to assume we could replace the goals we'd lose with Pacioretty...I'd also be careful to assume Draisaitl could replicate the numbers he has with EDM, with MTL.
I know it doesn't help our center issue...but Sanheim solves our "young LHD that can play with Weber" issue that's just as big and needy as our center issue.Doesn't help our Center issue and Philly wouldn't do it anyways....
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all fair points...as I said earlier, the issue not Draisaitl vs Pacioretty for me.Draisatl scored 29 goal season last season. Let’s assume he’s probably good for 25. That’s just 10 less than Max. But the thing with Max is he only has a shot, he’s a horrendous playmaker and PP presence. Leon will create goals in other ways. The Habs have enough shooters. Chuck, Lehkonen, Hudon, Gallagher. They all prefer to shoot. Plus the added bonus of having someone big at C that can matchup against other top Cs. Max doesn’t provide that.
all fair points...as I said earlier, the issue not Draisaitl vs Pacioretty for me.
I like both Simmonds and Sanheim, but if we've moving our most valuable (moveable) piece, we have to address our biggest need imo. If Max is moved for anything besides a Center, it will be disappointing.I know it doesn't help our center issue...but Sanheim solves our "young LHD that can play with Weber" issue that's just as big and needy as our center issue.
But fair enough. You're right in the sense that if we move Pacioretty, it should probably be to address our issue down the middle.
So what about our D?Only shot at a guy like Draisatl is to offer up Weber. I think the Oil would be interested as it would instantly significantly improve their D and leadership.
Max for Drai even though losing Max's goals is worth it. Big young offensive C we need. TBH I would rather get out of Max before we "have to sign him" to a 8 or 9 Million dollar contract because we don't have anyone else who can score 30.
Max for Giroux is a no from me. Giroux is a good C but not young anymore. We would need Max and Giroux on this team.
Giroux for Poehling+1st, sign me up IF PHI retains.
RNH+Lucic is interesting to me. CJ has history with Lucic and I don't think he is as bad as he is made out to be. Would add a C and winger depth to the team.
People over analyze the PK deal. The reason PK was moved was because of his contract. He's still the highest cap hit dman in the league by a full million dollars 2 years later, and he had a NMC that was kicking in. The NMC was why he was dealt. If you want to blame anyone or anything for PK being traded, the blame should be put on MB for the bridge deal that backfired. I though am not mad as I feel we ended up getting a better player back (don't want to get into it again though).It's pretty sickening (at least to me) that Pacioretty might get traded while PK is still with another team. I mean I think we all know who was the reason for PK's departure, so this makes me sick.
It’s a hefty price, no doubt. If there was a way to have other players involved instead of Poehling, I’d be for it. But I don’t think Edmonton bites without RP.
Kessel might have gotten the two late 1sts, 2nd, and 3rd, but Kessel > Patches so I don't think you're getting the same package.
He's looking like the player we've been dreaming about for years, a big, fast, all around stud of a top 6 C.How is Poeling doing? Is he looking that good that he would possibly block a Pacioretty/Draistle deal?
I don't think Edmonton bites on that deal period...but I was just talking hypothetically based on that 'rumor'.It’s a hefty price, no doubt. If there was a way to have other players involved instead of Poehling, I’d be for it. But I don’t think Edmonton bites without RP.
The year Kessel got traded he had a 25 goal 60 point season and he's yet to crack 30 goals with the Pens. Pacioretty scores more goals and plays a superb 2-way game. If a winger could win the Selke he'd be in the discussion every year. Kessel may be better than Pacioretty right now, but that hasn't been the case for almost 5 years. And even then, the difference wasn't that much, especially given the other aspects that Pacioretty brings.
Pass...counter offer
Pacioretty + Mete
for
Simmonds + Sanheim + mid-round pick
P.S. I suck at trade proposals lol
of course notI do see Pacioretty getting traded. Probably for someone similar.
Any truth to Pacioretty and first for Leon?
He'd easily be our best forward and best center.Can Giroux even play Center anymore....he's been at LW all season
He'd easily be our best forward and best center.
He has 30 points in 28 games, he's still a monster. Flyers also have Couturier and Patrick as their centers.At a $8.2M cap hit, one would hope so right?
While I like Giroux, he's not what he used to be and can't skate like he once did. He's playing on the wing for a reason. Then throw in the multiple concussions and caution must be factored into any decision.