Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread :Trades That Will Happen Next

[Sterling Archer]

I like it as a foundation of a deal. However, Lucic's contract has 6 more years to go vs. Alzner with 4 more years. Edmonton should add something.

I edited my post to account for that while you were replying

 

[Runner77]

I edited my post to account for that while you were replying

Good job. Why can't our GM come up with stuff like this? I think we know why -- he wouldn't want to lose face by moving Alzner only a few months after making him his acquisition of the summer.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Good job. Why can't our GM come up with stuff like this? I think we know why -- he wouldn't want to lose face by moving Alzner only a few months after making him his acquisition of the summer.

Sometimes the best move is admitting your mistake, accepting it’s a bad fit for both parties and move along.

 

[Runner77]

Sometimes the best move is admitting your mistake, accepting it’s a bad fit for both parties and move along.

Of course, the very best move would have been not to sign the likes of Alzner to begin with, which wouldn't now place us in a position to have to have to consider contracts for players we would not have otherwise been chasing.

Can't help but think that a more efficient pro scouting dept. wouldn't have recommended committing 5 years to a defensive specialist with a lot of mileage on him.

 

[Price4Prez]

Good job. Why can't our GM come up with stuff like this? I think we know why -- he wouldn't want to lose face by moving Alzner only a few months after making him his acquisition of the summer.

You want our GM to trade Alzner for Lucic? You want to take 2 years more of a contract for more money- to receive the same production?

Yes, we need a forward or two, but Lucic isnt the answer.

I'd dislike MB more for making that trade , than if he kept Alzner until his contract expires.

 

[Runner77]

You want our GM to trade Alzner for Lucic? You want to take 2 years more of a contract for more money- to receive the same production?

Yes, we need a forward or two, but Lucic isnt the answer.

I'd dislike MB more for making that trade , than if he kept Alzner until his contract expires.

I would take the contract depending on the offset that comes with Lucic, who adds an element of physicality and size that the team doesn't have enough of.

Would I prefer Lucic? Well, what else are you going to get for Alzner?

Just to get a good reading on Alzner's value, I don't remember too many suitors for him this past summer. MB was negotiating against himself, for all the wrong reasons, was probably panicked at gutting out the whole left side of his D and ended up lunging for a contract he shouldn't have been in a position to show interest for.

Who would you move Alzner for? You first have to find someone who is actually interested, lol.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

man, if we could somehow get Draisaitl, we could ice a line of Drouin-Draisaitl-Galchenyuk, back-to-back-to-back 3OA picks

how COOL would that be?!

honestly though I could see that line actually working.

 

[Vern]

But I wouldn't move Max for RNH.

I would go Poehling+1st for RNH, but not Max.

JD-RNH-AG
Max-Danault-Shaw

wouldn't be too bad of a top 6.

alternatively

JD-Giroux-AG
Max-Danault-Shaw

Another one I would do as long as 1 Mill retained.

Poehling+1st or any prospect in Laval is my offer.

whaterver 1m retained, who cares about 1 mil. I think this is what bergy's cookin up, if its tavares well, lol that would make hf waaay more fun

 

[voyageur]

Do the Habs really want to trade one of their biggest assets for a 34 year old player who has less points than Plekanec??
Why would Spezza be favoured over Danault in this line-up?
Hanzal - long term? It's a 3 year contract, and he'll be lucky to finish that given his performance so far.

... and other stuff... but that will do.

Fair enough. He was a 50 pointer last year, not sure why he is struggling. The centre I would ideally like to get in return is Chytil, but he is a project, probably would profit from a whole year, of development in the A, as an 18 year old, going forward. Maybe in the offseason. I was just trying to demonstrate how one more quality centre over a quality winger, struggling, completes the lineup more.

 

[Ozmodiar]

The centre I would ideally like to get in return is Chytil

yep, that would be nice.

I was just trying to demonstrate how one more quality centre over a quality winger, struggling, completes the lineup more.

absolutely, they need one more to put everyone in their correct spot. I would leave Danault and Pleks in their spots this season and move Drouin to the wing.

Anyway, my choice ... as far as big names are concerned ... would be RNH. Still young(ish), defensively responsible, still puts up points ( tied with Drai in pts with 20), might actually be available if Patch was offered, unlike Drai.
Soft, sure, but so is the Captain, so we don't lose there.

 

[Dannyhab]

I like it as a foundation of a deal. However, Lucic's contract has 6 more years to go vs. Alzner with 4 more years. Edmonton should add something.

If we trade with EDM it needs to be for RNH.

Patches + Lindgren + Alzner + McCarron for:

RNH + Lucic + Puljujarvi + 2018 1st

 

[417]

Where did you hear or read Mantha was available...i have a hard time believing that one

I didn't say he's available...just said I'd love to have him on the Habs.

I know he's had his issues with their head coach though, but I'm sure he'll outlast Blashill

 

[sampollock]

9.5 MILL to spend, and I am worried what MB will do, 3 3rd liners coming sigh,

 

[theghost1]

Bergevin if you want to make up for your blunders and lack of courage in the off season....not going all in going after a player like Schenn.....getting Radulov signed......and if you want to win then you need to make impact moves....Buffalo is open for business......Poehling,Juulse,Lindgren,1st round pick for ROR and Ristolainen....then you trade Pacioretty to the Blues to get under the cap and get back what you lost in the Buffalo trade....Thomas,1st round pick and a young goalie Husso.

 

[sampollock]

AND YET, MB wonders why we struggle as a team...

have to have 2 scoring lines , duh

 

[Deebs]

I didn't say he's available...just said I'd love to have him on the Habs.

I know he's had his issues with their head coach though, but I'm sure he'll outlast Blashill

Sorry, when I read the "wonder if he's really available" portion of your post, I took that to mean you heard or read it somewhere that he was.

 

[Yoor]

This is crazy...

Max Pacioretty is our best asset...you guys want to move him, WITH Poehling (our best prospect) AND a 1st for ONE element (Draistail)?

This screams "Kyle Turris for Matt Duchene + 1st + 3rd + prospect".

Terrible

Exactly..i don't think we should touch the idea of trading Poehling...we may regret that for years to come, I think we would have to add something though because we would be getting a long term signed Draisaitl. So maybe a 2nd or meh prospect as an add or maybe something conditional on Patches signing?

 

[Price4Prez]

I would take the contract depending on the offset that comes with Lucic, who adds an element of physicality and size that the team doesn't have enough of.

Would I prefer Lucic? Well, what else are you going to get for Alzner?

Just to get a good reading on Alzner's value, I don't remember too many suitors for him this past summer. MB was negotiating against himself, for all the wrong reasons, was probably panicked at gutting out the whole left side of his D and ended up lunging for a contract he shouldn't have been in a position to show interest for.

Who would you move Alzner for? You first have to find someone who is actually interested, lol.

Adding size and grit is nice and would be welcome but not at the expense of speed. We saw what adding that grit in Ott,King and Martinsen gave us. Sure they threw a few hits but couldnt skate faster than a grandmother with fresh knee replacements. I think Lucic is just more of that. Playing with McDavid covers alot of that up.

I think there were a few suitors for Alzner, he just came out of the gate saying his preference was to play in Montreal - do it wasnt too hard to negotiate. I personally dont think he is worth that contract but that is his market value in todays nhl. I dont think he is greatly overpaid.

As far as what we can get, im not too sure myself. Id almost be more inclined to take a draft pick at this point. The thing is, i dont think moving Alzner should be MB priority. Trading Max is lol

 

[417]

Lucic?

Yuck...he's been finished since his days in Boston. He skates like he's got a piano on his back.

He's got his use as a player, but his contract is prohibitive at best.

I wouldn't swap Alzner for Lucic...no thank you

 

[Yoor]

disagree.

Drai is a young C locked down for many years.

Max has 1.5 years left on his contract. EDM could be left with nothing after next season.

a 1st round pick that will be anywhere from 16-30( at worst 10th) is not a huge piece to give up.

Poehling is a good prospect, but another late round pick. Habs sat on Mac till he has no value. If I could go back in time and trade Mac and a 1st for ROR/Turris/MD/JT or any other center I do it in a heart beat.

You have to give to get. Drai is a good young C with his best years ahead of him. He has a hefty contract but at least it covers his prime age, not mostly his 30's.

Max won't be here in 2 years. Poehling will have almost no impact on this team for at least another 2 years, probably 3 or 4 (Look at Mac). Our 1st this year which I believe won't be lower than 16th won't have an impact for 3 or 4 years either.

So those extras won't be contributing until Price is 34 and Weber is 36. MEanwhile the team can add a dynamic 60-70 point C for Price 30-34 and Weber 32-36.

The choice is a no brainer to me.

you make a lot of good points. looking at it your way, i would actually do it...as listed in the first deal. If we get Drai to play C we could potentially trade Pleks at the deadline for maybe at late first? (stretch i know) or at least a 2nd...which could be a way to make up for losing that pick....i'm just spinning my wheels now...

 

[yianik]

Only shot at a guy like Draisatl is to offer up Weber. I think the Oil would be interested as it would instantly significantly improve their D and leadership.

 

[Ozmodiar]

9.5 MILL to spend, and I am worried what MB will do, 3 3rd liners coming sigh,

or six 4th liners.

 

[Yoor]

That's fine...

Again, I don't think there's that much difference in Pacioretty & Draisaitl (I'm NOT saying I think Pacioretty is better).

there is one major difference...One is a C that we desperately need. We need to fill 2 C positions on this team. This takes care of a huge hole for the Habs.

 

[417]

there is one major difference...One is a C that we desperately need. We need to fill 2 C positions on this team. This takes care of a huge hole for the Habs.

I understand that...but we're also filling a need (center) by creating another (winger).

I mean sure, you could say we could move Drouin to the wing, Galchenyuk, Byron, Lehkonen, Hudon...etc

We have options in terms of wingers.

However none of those players are proven goal scorers the way Pacioretty is. I mean you have Galchenyuk who has 1 30 goal season, Drouin has 1 20 goal season, Byron 1 20 goal season.

But I would be careful to assume we could replace the goals we'd lose with Pacioretty...I'd also be careful to assume Draisaitl could replicate the numbers he has with EDM, with MTL.

 

[ItzaGreat]

Pacioretty for Giroux?