Proposal: Trade Proposal Thread: Off-season Editon

[montreal]

If fans from other teams want to crap on our proposals, it's just going to be deleted and if it continues more action will be taken.

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[Runner77]

I've been hoping for a thread title that actually reflects how this thread evolves: Trades and Tirades. We need this.

 

[Seb]

All trade proposals should start with Pacioretty + Lindgren + 2nd.

Time to invest in the meme

 

[David Suzuki]

All trade proposals should start with Pacioretty + Lindgren + 2nd.

Time to invest in the meme

Panthers fan voice: most I can give you is a 2nd for this

 

[sampollock]

Will be nice when draft day is here, then we can see the master plan of MB

 

[NobleSix]

Pacioretty for Borgstrom, Hieponiemi, Trochek, Panthers 15th OV, and a *conditional 2019 1st.

*Condition: Panthers add another 1st in 2020 if Pacioretty signs, and a 2025 2nd if it's a max term deal.

That's the most I can do.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Pacioretty for Borgstrom, Hieponiemi, Trochek, Panthers 15th OV, and a *conditional 2019 1st.

*Condition: Panthers add another 1st in 2020 if Pacioretty signs, and a 2025 2nd if it's a max term deal.

That's the most I can do.

Slight overpayment but I guess Bergevin is being generous to his mentor in that trade.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Parches + for Doughty

Patches and Lindgren for Skinner and Faulk.

 

[Scintillating10]

Will be nice when draft day is here, then we can see the master plan of MB

Can't wait for June 23rd. Gonna be a nice evening

 

[Laurentide]

These things don't happen in a vacuum. There are pressures that these GM's work under that are specific to their teams and markets which sometimes obligate them to do things they may not necessarily want to do but need to do in order to satisfy other considerations. Florida needs to sell tickets more than Montreal. That could impact what Tallon does as GM of the Panthers that he might not do if he were GM in a less crappy market.

 

[theghost1]

Can't wait for June 23rd. Gonna be a nice evening

Draft is on Friday June 22nd day 2 is June 23rd rounds 2-7.

 

[Miller Time]

Kovalchuk - RNH - Scherbak
Drouin - Danault - Zadina
Lekhonen - Pleks - Gallagher
Hudon - JDR - Dlo
(DalColle, Bellows, Rychel, McCarron)

Hickey - Weber
Sekera - Petry
Mete - Juulsen
Benn

Price
Niemi

To Edm
Galch, Byron, Shaw

To Mtl
RNH, Sekera, 2nd 2019
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To NYI
Patches, Alzner, Lingren

To Mtl
1st, DalColle, Bellows, conditional 2019 (2nd if Patches extends)
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Sign
Kovalchuk, 4yrs 6M/per
Pleks, 1 yr 2M
Hickey, 3 yrs 4M/per

 

[GrumpyKelly]

These things don't happen in a vacuum. There are pressures that these GM's work under that are specific to their teams and markets which sometimes obligate them to do things they may not necessarily want to do but need to do in order to satisfy other considerations. Florida needs to sell tickets more than Montreal. That could impact what Tallon does as GM of the Panthers that he might not do if he were GM in a less crappy market.

Oh this is surely the case. While it's true that Tallon doesn't want to move Borgstrom and I doubt he will because he loves his own guys (expansion draft prime example), I don't doubt that he has interest in Pacioretty.

But given what Bergevin was asking at the deadline (Trocheck) I don't know how a deal could get done. And if Borgstom isn't going anywhere either, I don't know what's left to close out that seemingly huge gap in perceived value. Maybe I'm off base here but Bergevin doesn't seem to make a lot of deals but when he does, he gets good value out of them, which usually is the case with Tallon.

I personally think Heponiemi is in play but given the way he destroyed WHL last year adding a first is too much imo.

 

[Runner77]

Maybe I'm off base here but Bergevin doesn't seem to make a lot of deals but when he does, he gets good value out of them, which usually is the case with Tallon.

Errrr ... where are you getting this?

 

[Runner77]

These are but a fraction of questions YOU DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO, yet you think that by using your "logic" you can surmise the outcome. You're problem is your hubris in thinking you can logically surmise what's in the mind of a stranger based on comments he made to the media where you believe (wrongly) that he's given all the pertinent and factual information.

"You can never really get a full picture of what a pro sports executive is thinking until you get him to reveal all of the twitter accounts he's running at the same time."

- Bryan Colangelo

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Errrr ... where are you getting this?

No where really

Honestly, I don't know. I just thought about the Danault and Plekanec deals and those seemed good ones. I personally like the Subban - Weber swap although now it looks pretty bad with the injury to Weber. Those are all the deals I remember.

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Also I'd actually rephrase my previous statement,what do you guys think about

Heponiemi + 2019 1st for Pacioretty?

Adding a first next year wouldn't be as big of a deal since we expect to make the playoffs (certainly if we're adding a player like MaxPac). Personally I think the 15OA this year has a lot more value than for example 20-23 OA next year.

 

[sampollock]

MB should keep the pick, need a young star to come...get the fans excited about something,

 

[Canadienna]

Sell Patches at the draft for the highest bidder, we are not going to get full value for him, but partial value is better than none or even worse a resign.

That's it. No big moves, no big signings. Draft well and integrate the kids.

 

[417]

"You can never really get a full picture of what a pro sports executive is thinking until you get him to reveal all of the twitter accounts he's running at the same time."

- Jerry Colangelo

LMAO

I was blown away reading that story on Ringer this morning

 

[sampollock]

Sell Patches at the draft for the highest bidder, we are not going to get full value for him, but partial value is better than none or even worse a resign.

That's it. No big moves, no big signings. Draft well and integrate the kids.

IT IS time to move on from maxy......but.....if JT DID sign here, maxy would be a good winger for him

 

[Le Barron de HF]

For shits and gigs, what do you think we'd have to give for Kessel? Say we sign JT, that'd make us contenders big time. Would Pacioretty, Juulsen and a second rounder be enough?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

lets be clear and go over this again

Tavares will never sihn with the habs even at 15m/y

stop daydreaming he won't join this country club with 2 of the biggest idiots as gm and owner

 

[Runner77]

LMAO

I was blown away reading that story on Ringer this morning

Just read The Ringer piece. Had heard the item on 690 this morning. I really enjoyed the quality, in-depth writing of the article.

Love sites like this. Have seen other well-written pieces on sites like Five Thirty Eight and occasionally on Deadspin.

Any other sites of this quality, that you enjoy reading?

This quote from The Ringer piece, is a gem:

The elder Colangelo joined the Sixers organization in late 2015—reportedly with encouragement from the NBA—to speed up Hinkie’s so-called “Process,” the slash-and-burn rebuild that amassed draft assets, cap space, and copious losses.

The slash-and-burn rebuild sounds like something the Habs should be doing for another two years.

 

[Justin11]

lets be clear and go over this again

Tavares will never sihn with the habs even at 15m/y

stop daydreaming he won't join this country club with 2 of the biggest idiots as gm and owner

The quicker people realize this, the less disappointed they will be come July 1st.